How far off first team (age and ability) are they?

At a guess 2/4 years but you never can tell with 16/17 year olds, some develop quicker than others. Whether or not there will be somebody ready when Long's two years are up I am not sure. I hope Long is kept on the coaching staff though.

I would assume that Long has been given a much wider terms of reference than only bringing on the juniors, important though that is. I would hope he has a big say in attacking structure and organisation for the first grade both on the training field and in games.

He's probably our new defence coach

still better then what we have now

Thorman's role next year I believe

Why what was on the Bandanna?

Not too sure about the klu klux klan gear!!

getting some well dodgy images now

Surely you wouldn't be able to see it through those dreaded locks

im not a huge fan ov longy but i couldnt care less what the guy wears when he`s not playing aslong he pulls on that black n white shirt and plays his nuts off every game every week next season and beyond.

Granted Hudds forwards were superb; however they also coughed up so much ball that Saints had so many shots at them in top field position. Amongst all this were still plenty of occasions they had quick or reasonable play the balls from which a top half back might instigate a killer play.

It doesn't matter if it was Peter Sterling, Joey Johns, Sean Long or the great Michael Dobson, a top half back could have made a huge difference for Saints yesterday.

By the way, as I clearly don't know you, may I ask which team you support?

Manchester United



BTW having Eastmond at SH in recent weeks didn't appear to have hampered Saints at all. Only yesterday when they got bullied out of the cup.

Also likening Long to Sterling or Johns really does halt your argument in its stride

The reds

Edited for accuracy

Your argument is getting worse!



Saints camped on Wigan's line for virtually the entire match in the previous week and only came up with 2 tries!! One an individual effort at the death, the other a lucky ricochet. This against a Wigan side who were blown apart by Monaghan and Briers (no need for Andrew Johns

).

It was a forerunner for the Hudds game when they met the meanest defence in the league. They took a fair battering but still had the field position and at times the platform but they just had no one to pull the strings. But you continue to insist the presence of Long couldn't possibly have made ANY difference!!





(banging my head against a Red and White wall)

nobody can prove it,bit i still think long would have made a difference.i still think hull would have struggled to beat wakefield in last years cup semi, if adam dykes hadnt played.but i suppose we all have our opinions.key players can make a difference.

If it makes you sleep better thinking Long is a superstar and will transform Hull next season then fine. I happen to think the otherwise and so do the Saints board

BTW have you ever heard of goal line defence ?? Also what do you think Long would have been doing when Saints didn't have posession??

If you think my opinion is based on being a dobbin then you're a bigger fool than i thought





Also using a highly charged derby as a basis for genuine form is rather silly imo.

Could be worse, he could have been convicted for hitting a woman, driving away from the scene of an accident and driving while under the influence. And being a fat east hull

Doing agar's job you mean?

Yes you're right I bet he says all in Potter's training sessions. Just keeps his mouth shut and has no input no doubt.

Looked that way yesterday

I agree with your point about beaten forwards etc. however I think Long is a better player than Eastmond (at this stage of his career) and as such Saints may have performed better and taken better options when near the Hudds line with the better player Long playing. Whether that would have changed the result who knows.

Potter out I say.