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| Quote ="Kosh"When did any of the clubs you mention have 60% of their salary cap out injured?'"
I meant relatively speaking , not exactly but all those I mentioned have had serious player profiles missing for long periods....
however your own post highlights the current issue 60% missing, well said and there lies the issue at present and those claiming £5 or what ever can have it
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| Quote ="EXPRO"I meant relatively speaking , not exactly but all those I mentioned have had serious player profiles missing for long periods....
however your own post highlights the current issue 60% missing, well said and there lies the issue at present [uand those claiming £5 or what ever can have it[/u'"
just buy me a couple of pints at castleford instead
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| We're just as disorganised without injuries. We do reasonably well in the first part of the season, when every team are finding their feet. Then, when teams find their feet and get in to second gear, we end up in reverse! Supporting the team for 30+ years I've seen some shocking seasons, but I can't remember seeing a team so lost in all my life. I payed subs and played for a more organised team, it's disgusting!
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| Quote ="wolfie"www.sporthull.co.uk/headlines/HULL-FC-Coach-Agar-investigates-season-wrecking-injuries/article-2145405-detail/article.html'"
Confirmation that he is not the right candidate...He has to factor age into (he signed the ageing players)
Also he has to factor rotation (fitz being worked to death)
Yet no mention of these factors
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| The injuries are frustrating but i'm unsure about blaming them on someone. (and i'd like to blame Agar believe me)
Could it just be bad luck? The curse of Brantingham or something like that?
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| Any review should have been by an independent Sports Injury Consultant. Agar is not going to say that it's the technique, tactics and conditioning of players thats at fault seeing as how he is respondsible for those issues is he.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"The injuries are frustrating but i'm unsure about blaming them on someone. (and i'd like to blame Agar believe me)
Could it just be bad luck? The curse of Brantingham or something like that?
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Seems to be that we've been jinxed since we moved to the KC. How many serious/long term injuries have we had since we moved there?
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| Quote ="Scrappy Doo"Seems to be that we've been jinxed since we moved to the KC. How many serious/long term injuries have we had since we moved there?'"
Hull City seem to get their fair share with Bullard and Ashbee etc.
Could there be a curse of the KC? Could our new club chaplain carry out an exorcism or something?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Hull City seem to get their fair share with Bullard and Ashbee etc.
Could there be a curse of the KC? Could our new club chaplain carry out an exorcism or something?
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Maybe Hudgell put a curse on the ground when it was being built
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"The injuries are frustrating but i'm unsure about blaming them on someone. (and i'd like to blame Agar believe me)
Could it just be bad luck? The curse of Brantingham or something like that?
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Alot of it is simply down to bad luck due to playing contact sport.
Berro's broken colloarbone at Leeds or Long turning his ankle at KC, these things happen to all clubs.
I still think we dont help ourselves by playing players with injuries just to get us through games though. I would hate to guess how many 2 week injuries have turned into 2 months injuries because of this.
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| Quote ="Scrappy Doo"Maybe Hudgell put a curse on the ground when it was being built'"
Well Hull City went downhill on the pitch when Hudge became a Director!
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Alot of it is simply down to bad luck due to playing contact sport.
Berro's broken colloarbone at Leeds or Long turning his ankle at KC, these things happen to all clubs.
I still think we dont help ourselves by playing players with injuries just to get us through games though. I would hate to guess how many 2 week injuries have turned into 2 months injuries because of this.'"
Doesnt help though when the club bull*hit us that players will be back for Cats to then tell us that we've got 12 players missing still!
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| Quote ="Scrappy Doo"Maybe Hudgell put a curse on the ground when it was being built'"
The gypsy curse...happens once a year
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Doesnt help though when the club bull*hit us that players will be back for Cats to then tell us that we've got 12 players missing still!'"
TBF I reckon 3 or 4 players will play injured on Saturday and then we will have at least one of them added to the long term injury list next week.
Credit the players for putting their hands up to play and I am certainly not questionning their commitment but I really hope no serious damage is done by playing on injured.
Saints seem to bite the bullet and throw in a handful of young kids who never let them down maybe we should follow their example?
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| Quote ="knocker norton"TBF I reckon 3 or 4 players will play injured on Saturday and then we will have at least one of them added to the long term injury list next week.
Credit the players for putting their hands up to play and I am certainly not questionning their commitment but I really hope no serious damage is done by playing on injured.
Saints seem to bite the bullet and throw in a handful of young kids who never let them down maybe we should follow their example?'"
Are our youngsters that quality though?
Also, we've had an extra week off to some other sides. I was surprised to hear that we was even training on the Monday of the first week. I thought we'd have let all of the players have 4 or 5 days off in week 1 and then get back to it in week 2.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Are our youngsters that quality though?
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Probably no worse then a semi fit Horney. And that is not having a go at Rich but he should never have taken the field against either Wakey or Quins.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Probably no worse then a semi fit Horney. And that is not having a go at Rich but he should never have taken the field against either Wakey or Quins.'"
Fair point.
Time to look to the likes of Jack Briscoe, Cunningham, Kent, Nicklas etc to step up then.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Fair point.
Time to look to the likes of Jack Briscoe, Cunningham, Kent, Nicklas etc to step up then.'"
I think we're well into 'nothing to lose' territory.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I think we're well into 'nothing to lose' territory.'"
Feels that way.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I think we're well into 'nothing to lose' territory.'"
Maybe not that far but if it means managing your squad better then I would give the kids a chance. Had we played Nicklas in place of Horne against Quins then Horne would be 2-3 weeks into the 6 weeks rest he needs to get fully fit.
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| RICHARD Agar has revealed Hull FC have carried out their own investigations into the number of injuries the club have sustained in recent years.
As highlighted in yesterday's Mail, Hull's injury woes hit a high last week with just 12 of their 26-man squad fit enough to train.
It is a problem which has blighted the club for three seasons and one which has prompted the Black and Whites to do their own investigation.
However, after looking in-depth at their injury list and causes, Agar says he is convinced his team can do no more than curse their bad luck.
"We've had a long, hard look at the nature of the injuries we have been suffering and how they have come about," Agar told the Mail.
"We wanted to see if there was anything we could fix up but in most cases a large percentage are impact and collision injuries during the game.
"We have had a look at techniques of the players to see if that is an issue, but it isn't."
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| Avoid impacts and collisions then , must be how Craig Hall keeps so fit
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| Quote ="knocker norton"TBF I reckon 3 or 4 players will play injured on Saturday and then we will have at least one of them added to the long term injury list next week.
Credit the players for putting their hands up to play and I am certainly not questionning their commitment but I really hope no serious damage is done by playing on injured.
Saints seem to bite the bullet and throw in a handful of young kids who never let them down maybe we should follow their example?'"
This is a good point and one I've mentioned before. Saints (like you've mentioned ) ,Leeds , Wire , Hudds , Bradford and Wakefield have all used their full squad to help them out of injury situations. There going to have to step up some time.
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| Better off with Inspector Closeau investigating
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