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| Quote ="penny for your thoughts"scenario :- tansey plays at half back and has a stormer along side Horne, do we then leave Long on the side lines when he returns because the player who slotted into his position has had a good game?
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Long is out for a different reason than Tansey.
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| Quote ="major black"Thing with Whiting is that he's great as a temp we all know it his utility value etc, it's been done to death but thats it just on a temporary basis. I remember him covering FB before with a good couple of games then having a stinker. '"
You do? You remember differently to me.
Whiting has been very good in three out of the four games this season and played no worse than anyone else in the fourth. He deserves a place in the starting line up on merit because he's a very good player, not because he's 'temping' for someone else.
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| Quote ="major black"Thing with Whiting is that he's great as a temp we all know it his utility value etc, it's been done to death but thats it just on a temporary basis. I remember him covering FB before with a good couple of games then having a stinker. quote
when was that then cos i dont remember that ?? was that a match you watched on the radio??
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| tansey for me needs to work his socks off to get fullback this week
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| Whiting was superb, FB could be regarded as the hardest position to play and he made it look easy. He has time, thats something you can't coach, he just reads the game so well.
No one has mentioned the killer ball he gives to Manu on this thread, he made that look easy. Who else what have had the ball skills to have done that, certainly not Washbrook who most on here have been clamouring for pre-season. Berrigan or Tansey wouldn't have had either, they're instinctive running types. I agree it's hard to know where to play him at present and it's about playing to the squads strengths. It's nice that Agar has this headache and its great for our club that we maybe have the most versatlie player in SL like Phil Clarke alluded to last night.
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| as Agar said in his comments, given an extra yard of speed Whiting would be an international!! simple as that
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"You do? You remember differently to me.
Whiting has been very good in three out of the four games this season and played no worse than anyone else in the fourth. He deserves a place in the starting line up on merit because he's a very good player, not because he's 'temping' for someone else.'"
Yeah I do. 4 times actually and like I say did well as a stop gap but I wouldn't have him as our first choice number 1 IMO.
and by the way I'm not slagging the kid off, he would always be in or around my first team squad without a doubt.
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| Quote ="hullbg"One thing about Whiting last night that i would be critical about was his refusal to take the ball on the full, nearly each kick was allowed to bounce numerous times. Against another team those balls would have been higly contested.'"
let a couple of them bounce but i think that was due to Quins not kicking as far as expected.
Only one of them he seemed to really cock up , but made up for it in the return .
His and Briscoes ball return and work in the first half laid a great platform for our forwards.
I may seem a bit controvertial here but i would omit Rich Horne or bench him next week, just to keep him fresher for the Wigan game
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| Quote ="Hutchie"let a couple of them bounce but i think that was due to Quins not kicking as far as expected.
Only one of them he seemed to really cock up , but made up for it in the return .
[uHis and Briscoes ball return and work in the first half laid a great platform for our forwards.
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I may seem a bit controvertial here but i would omit Rich Horne or bench him next week, just to keep him fresher for the Wigan game'"
Agreed - what he lacks in pace with his ball return, he more than makes up for with leg drive. Great metres.
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| Our fans wasnt shouting England's number 1 for nothing against crusaders ! Tansey back in he's a class act
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| Quote ="major black"Yeah I do. '"
Perhaps you could state which game he had a 'stinker' in, and what he did wrong.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Perhaps you could state which game he had a 'stinker' in, and what he did wrong.'"
I cant think of a spell where he's played a run of games at full back, let alone have a stinker.
Think Craig hall did and that was when his confidence was shattered before he went out on loan.
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| Rich Whiting has never let Hull down where ever he's been picked ok we know he's no speed merchant but if he was he would now be in the England football team earning a fortune .
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| For me he cannot be dropped he has IMO never let us down. Great to see him fit!
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| Will be one of whiting or hall who make way for the returning tansey IMO. Neither deserve to be dropped, I'd leave tansey out for another week
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Will be one of whiting or hall who make way for the returning tansey IMO. Neither deserve to be dropped, I'd leave tansey out for another week'"
Agree neither deserve to be dropped, I would include Tansey but drop Houghton who is not hitting his straps yet could be a kick up the bootee he needs.
If Berro needs resting, we have options in Tansey for 9 (Tansey should start on the bench, Whiting earnt his right to play f/back imo, and this is the attitude we should be adopting, get your chance work hard and you earn the right to keep it.
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| I suppose it's a wonderful headache for Agar to have after the last two seasons ! I don't see how he can keep everyone totally happy when they're all fit and wanting to play. Players must by now have picked up the odd knock or strain and in my opinion he should introduce the guys who haven't played yet one at a time and rest the odd player. I know the old saying of if it's not broke don't fix it but all the main players in the squad need match time cos injuries will come no doubt. With a slight rotation system it would, I'm sure, keep them all happy to a certain extent, we don't want the situation where guys have to have injections to get them on the park again. Give one a two a rest now and again I say, look at how Tickle is playing now as he's been spelled during the game.
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| Tansey and Moa both to come in for me.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Tansey and Moa both to come in for me.'"
Mao for who?
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Mao for who?'"
Good question. I like Moa and I'd be as happy as anyone to see him get some game time, but with the pack operating as it is I don't see anyone who deserves to be dropped to make way.
There are bound to be opportunities to bring him in during the season, for prop rotation as games stack up if nothing else, but right now there's no need IMO.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Good question. I like Moa and I'd be as happy as anyone to see him get some game time, but with the pack operating as it is I don't see anyone who deserves to be dropped to make way.
There are bound to be opportunities to bring him in during the season, for prop rotation as games stack up if nothing else, but right now there's no need IMO.'"
Pack is playing very well and Moa should only come in if injuries occur.......tbh...wouldnt bother me if he didnt play...waste of a quota spot.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Pack is playing very well and Moa should only come in if injuries occur.......tbh...wouldnt bother me if he didnt play...waste of a quota spot.'"
I think the guy's got potential and he was worth a year's contract as we had the spot available and nobody else lined up, but with the quota coming down by one next year I'm not sure why we signed him up for two seasons.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Mao for who?'"
I'm not going to say that any of our props "deserve" to be dropped but Cusack AND Dowes on our bench just isn't right IMO. When O'Meley leaves the field, we lose a lot of impact and intensity, and almost go into a kind of passive mode until he returns 20 minutes later. Against bigger and better packs than the Quins, this could be costly.
I would much rather see us continue on the front foot with some big impact/go-forward coming from the bench and neither Dowes or Cusack are going to provide that.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I think the guy's got potential and he was worth a year's contract as we had the spot available and nobody else lined up, but with the quota coming down by one next year I'm not sure why we signed him up for two seasons.'"
Wasted a 2yr deal on him.......can see us paying him off if we go for Finch.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Wasted a 2yr deal on him.......can see us paying him off if we go for Finch.'"
Panic signing to appease the vocal majority, effected by the rumours of Rovers coming in for him. Said at the time it was the wrong decision - I rate Sam, but with the amount of forwards we already had for this year it was the wrong call IMO when we knew that Raynor's court case was coming up. Personally I reckon there'll be a bidding war for Finch. Can see our neighbours going in for him as well with Cooke OOC.
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