Benefits count towards the cap

My mistake, I forgot how important binge drinking was to be a successful RL player. We'll miss Thackeray, King and Tommy Lee badly next season with only only Longy and Tickle to positively influence the team down the Weir. Maybe we'll get lucky and Michael Smith will come out of retirement to help us out. If we don't develop a drinking clique early on, we may not achieve 3rd from bottom again.

Banned

still plenty of binge drinkers left in the squad including the ring leader, who appears to have been missed out in the selective cull that went on



Amazing how some people are still taken in by the spin coming from the club and certain players alledged antics

it not always just as simple as throwing cash at it the player has to be available clubs are not just letting go quailty players ,saint have let long go because of his age simple ,young quality half backs are a rare thing thats why wolves have just paid a lot of money for a unproven kid in myler ,i think thre club where tracking a couple of oversea players but decided on long due to the fact he was available with no visa issues and wouldnt count on the quota good call i think ,and yes i think he could well be the missing link if he stays fit and he should have a good platform to work with from a great looking pack ,looking forward to a fresh looking side next year with plenty of exsperience and winners in there

Raggy takes no spin, i can assure you of that!

I can only judge on the players I have seen out drinking with my own eyes. I have yet to see Berro out getting ratted although I'm quite sure it's happened. I have definitely seen the others out drinking and one of them smoking. I have not heard any spin whatsoever come from the club regarding the drink culture.

Remember you joining our board Mark and I'm sure he was only taking you at your word from your first post, remember telling us all that you were a novice and needed advice from us all?? West Hull Fans have really good memories you know, especially when we have the back up of all your postings. I'm sure he'll always give you the benefit of any knowledge you may need, as would anyone of the fans, we all like to welcome all comers to our fan base........grannyfan Cindy

what a strange thread.

long has been the best half back we, england, has produced in a decade.

sure hes no spring chicken but he leads his side about better then anyone else in super league.

ratchford? not yet and he's a 6, finch? doesn't want to come to england and again is a better 6.

What i would have posted after i had finished reading the full thread,
Unless you want to pay big money in transfer fees you have to take the best of who is available and i believe the club has done that.
Hes still the best British scrum half around ability wise imo.

Is he in the Lebanon squad ?

he has no issue parting the opposition line, keeps dropping the ball though with him having holes in his hands

At least the catering would improve!

And if he could part the Red sea several times for Calders to finish off i'd be well happy

Nailed on for a place....

What has Rule ever done for us ?? Sorry, sorry, the Romans, the Romans . . . .

Spot on. Long was not at his best on Saturday but he still had a huge influence on the game. He'll do for me.

Says it all really Paul. A player doesn't have the best of games but still influences things..... Do for me as well.

Sure Long is past his best but he's still great at what he does and what he does he does well in my opinion. This guy is gonna change the way our team have been playing recently. I.E the last two seasons. Long will bring experience and organisation into the squad. He has a very good rugby brain and wether he's on the pitch playing or out injured he will still have a massive input into set plays and tactics. I also think that with Horney playing alongside Longy it will refresh Horney's game. Looking forward to 2010.

I agree with that as well. I reckon it'll free Horney up a bit. With all he's had on his plate healthwise and having a clown (Thorman) or someone else filling in beside him hasn't helped him at all.

Horney is a great player. He has showed the Faithful in the past. He's been off his game since Cooke left TBF. The illness and injuries didn't help either. If Long and Horne gel on and off the field then I can only see the Rich Horne of old but a more creative and improved all round player standing out.

I said i was a novice on how to use the forum, so not sure what your point is.

Post of the weekso far!!

Thank you kind sir



Besides, Long is not the Messiah, he's just a very naughty boy



Taxi!

Long will be a huge miss for Saints, and a great bit of business for hull. On the question of his fitness, he has missed games this season, but only for a broken eye socket, he isn't injury prone like a Sculthorpe for instance. He did have dodgy knees early in his career, but has been ok for 6 or 7 season now? I think he is capable of playing most of your games next year, and if you get to a big game, he is capable of winning it for you. Not too sure about his coaching credentials though!!

We need a scrum half desperately so the club goes and gets the best that is available, granted he is the wrong side of 30 but great players dont lose it just because they reach 30. Look at Jason Smith, finished when he left us but still managed another 2 or 3 years in the hardest league there is, pace had left him long ago but that rugby brain still ran quicker than guys 10 years younger enabling him to create problems for the opposition and still be a valuable player for his coach to rely on.