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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"I agree, but to say it's "ordinary" is harsh. From weakest link to strongest link our squad is up there with the best. Then add the team spirit the players seem to have and Justin Morgan's coaching, you can see why we could be top (or 1 point off) at the half way mark.'"
It's not an outstanding squad but it has many strengths that ours doesn't. As far as the word "ordinary" goes, there is only one squad in the city that could be labelled with such a word and it's not yours.
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| Quote ="RatedRSuperstar"To put this post into perspective regardless of the majority of comments relating to the strengths and weaknesses of both clubs and what the long term and short term future holds:
People will always judge success on whats happening right now and will base future predictions on it, forget what may happen or what has happened in the past... its all about now
More importantly, you won't see a thread like this on the Rovers board, why? The club and fans are all commited to the cause of concentrating on the success of their own club in every department, not the rise or fall of any other club, local or not!'"
They will but we're looking at now and how the future will be if we continue as we are. The sad fact is that currently there isn't one player in our squad who would get into Rovers 17 assuming all of their squad was fit. And you know what they say if you keep doing what you've always done , you get what you've always had.
We need to change our recruitment policy pretty quickly and start being honest about what we've got which is a pretty ordinary squad , little prospect of home grown talent improving things and a poor coaching team that has already failed here and elsewhere. Once we do that then and only then can we hope to put in place a policy which has a chance of improving things.
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| Quote ="ChrisH"They will but we're looking at now and how the future will be if we continue as we are. The sad fact is that currently there isn't one player in our squad who would get into Rovers 17 assuming all of their squad was fit. And you know what they say if you keep doing what you've always done , you get what you've always had.
We need to change our recruitment policy pretty quickly and start being honest about what we've got which is a pretty ordinary squad , little prospect of home grown talent improving things and a poor coaching team that has already failed here and elsewhere. Once we do that then and only then can we hope to put in place a policy which has a chance of improving things.'"
Ordinary coaching set-up + ordinary squad of players = ordinary rugby + ordinary league position.
Isn't mathematics brilliant !!!!!
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr"I agree, but to say it's "ordinary" is harsh. From weakest link to strongest link our squad is up there with the best. Then add the team spirit the players seem to have and Justin Morgan's coaching, you can see why we could be top (or 1 point off) at the half way mark.'"
I think you're focussing too much on one word TBH. And I would disagree that your [isquad[/i is as good on paper as the likes of Saints, Leeds, or even Wire. Morgan has made the whole operate better than the sum of the parts, which is the sign of a good coach and also a sign of the correct attitude among the players.
We did much the same in 2006 in fact.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I think you're focussing too much on one word TBH. And I would disagree that your [isquad[/i is as good on paper as the likes of Saints, Leeds, or even Wire. Morgan has made the whole operate better than the sum of the parts, which is the sign of a good coach and also a sign of the correct attitude among the players.
We did much the same in 2006 in fact.'"
I agree, Rovers squad is more workmanlike than flair, what we do we do well, and so far it's working. We don't thrash many sides, but if an eight point win at the likes of Wigan keeps us at the right end of the table, then I can live with that.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"I agree, Rovers squad is more workmanlike than flair, what we do we do well, and so far it's working. We don't thrash many sides, but if an eight point win at the likes of Wigan keeps us at the right end of the table, then I can live with that.'"
Quite.
People seem to forget that when we went on our 13 match unbeaten run and ended up in the GF, we did it in similar fashion. There were a lot of narrow wins with the players playing for each other and never accepting the possibility of defeat.
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| Briscoe, Fox, Cooke, Dobson, Vella, Fozzard, Galea, Newton, Murrell is our spine. We have players who work there balls off around these players which is the key to our success this season thus far.
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| Quote ="Alex Mc"Briscoe, Fox, Cooke, Dobson, Vella, Fozzard, Galea, Newton, Murrell is our spine. We have players who work there balls off around these players which is the key to our success this season thus far.'"
Add Fisher to that! We're a different team with him on the pitch, especially this year!
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| Quote ="Roverswall"I guess you didn't bother to actually read the thread in question then
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Dont go on there much, banned for some reason
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Thing is, as they like to point out (and we would in equal measure if it were us) they've had a clear roadmap to where they are now and are delivering on it. We're still waiting for our 8 easy points.
My opinion is that Rovers will struggle more when the homegrown players requirement increases to 8 and the quota drops to 5. For all that Whelam is a good player, they're not bringing 2 homegrown players a season through to play regularly. They're also £2.4m in debt and can't finance ground extensions for either home or away fans. An inconvenient truth for those who like to label off the field management as irrelevant detail, perhaps.
BUT for now they've been canny to work the current quota system to its limits and their run of form reminds me of us in 2006. In the Cup, Morgan took Toulouse to the Semi Final for goodness sake, so you have to fancy Rovers to get to Wembley unless they get Saints in the semi. No point in predicting it's all going to go wrong for them as there's no evidence to suggest it will. In the short term.'"
Do you have proof that they can't finance ground extensions or is that just in your bitter twisted mind ?
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| Quote ="Mulder"Do you have proof that they can't finance ground extensions or is that just in your bitter twisted mind ?'"
They can't, otherwise they would be building.
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| Quote ="Mulder"Do you have proof that they can't finance ground extensions or is that just in your bitter twisted mind ?'" think youll find mrs b will have done her homework on this one
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"Dont go on there much, banned for some reason'" But yet you knew about the said thread
That doesn't add up now does it
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| its just years of the hull board resting on their laurels as hulls no1 club.rovers came up and hull ignored the threat with pig headed arrogance.well now theyve raised the bar and now we have to respond.
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| Quote ="Mulder"Do you have proof that they can't finance ground extensions or is that just in your bitter twisted mind ?'"
I have concrete (Pardon the Pun) proof that works are going ahead as i am the Plumber/Gas Engineer who tendered and won the works and have a signed contract as such!!
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| Quote ="Mulder"Do you have proof that they can't finance ground extensions or is that just in your bitter twisted mind ?'"
Thanks for the abuse, but on 31st March 2008, Paul Lakin announced to the press that Craven Park's capacity would be 14,000 by 2010. In January this year, in an "article" in the HDM Neil Hudgell said that the plans would not meet the previously declared deadlines (which were interstingly included in Rovers franchise application) citing the credit crunch as making it difficult to raise the required funding. Rovers debt of £2.4m won't be helping either.
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| Quote ="Andrea FC"think youll find mrs b will have done her homework on this one'"
Please see above quote!!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Thanks for the abuse, but on 31st March 2008, Paul Lakin announced to the press that Craven Park's capacity would be 14,000 by 2010. In January this year, in an "article" in the HDM Neil Hudgell said that the plans would not meet the previously declared deadlines (which were interstingly included in Rovers franchise application) citing the credit crunch as making it difficult to raise the required funding. Rovers debt of £2.4m won't be helping either.'"
There, there.....do you feelbetter now??
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| Quote ="chukabutt"I have concrete (Pardon the Pun) proof that works are going ahead as i am the Plumber/Gas Engineer who tendered and won the works and have a signed contract as such!!'"
You'll know more than me but I've been told the work will start at the end of the current season.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"You'll know more than me but I've been told the work will start at the end of the current season.'"
You know the exact same as i do mate!!
Its just them lot clutching at straws!!
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"There, there.....do you feelbetter now??
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No. Well, maybe a little bit.
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| Quote ="chukabutt"You know the exact same as i do mate!!
Its just them lot clutching at straws!!'"
Lakin said capacity would be 12,000 for this season and 14,000 for the start of 2010. That's not happened yet as the funding that was expected has not been secured. No straw-clutching here, just FACTS.
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| Me thinks on current form our attendances will even out by the end of the season.....
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| Quote ="Mulder"Do you have proof that they can't finance ground extensions or is that just in your bitter twisted mind ?'"
It's hard to get a mortgage these days.
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