Pricing would have to be carefully thought out by both clubs but the main idea is to get fans into the ground in what is likely to be very challenging times next season.
As i said a lot of fans football and R/L wont attend next season due to a confidence factor and the longer fans dont attend live matches the more difficult it becomes to get them back.
Much better to have 15000 in a 25000 capacity stadium for football and R/L at a reduced priced incentive pass then 7 or 8 thousand paying the normal price.
Our only saving grace will be winning one of the major comps this season

I agree that getting people back in the stands will be a big challenge. Many will not feel confident in being surrounded by strangers unless there is a vaccine which seems unlikely and as you say there will be a lot of more casual fans whi have just got used to not going and found other things to do with their time. If as is likely we slide into recession many fans won't be able to afford to go.

I cannot see a dual ticket deal with Hull City whilst the Allams still own the club. For one thing I'm not sure they are bothered about attendances given the farce over their pricing scheme which dragged on for years causing crowd figures to halve.

You're assuming another 7.5k supporters go to city and hull, I somehow doubt that very much!

Agreed. Many fans wouldnt go if they got a free pass nevermind picking up another 7.5k paying fans, whatever the price of the ticket. Id certainly have no interest in watching City.

Nice idea but i just cant see it being feasible.

Anybody know case numbers for the virus in Hull?

Sure I saw we were around the 100 a day mark in the uk

Just wondering how hulls faring

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Does it actually give figures, seems very vague and the graphs tiny lol

Numbers are on the left hand side of the graph if that helps.

Personally I think the club should increase the membership a small amount across the board, I don't think many fans would begrudge an increase all things considered. I also think the club should simplify things and remove the paying early discount, does this really make a difference to when people pay, would removing it stop people buying a pass and would it really impact the club to get the money a few weeks or month/s later from those that could afford to buy early in any case (anyone have a number on early buyers?). Is it worth the loss of the extra income from offering the earlybird offer?

I'd like to think that the club could maybe encourage some 'seniors' to pay something over and above the listed pass price given the significant discount already received, not all seniors are in the lower income brackets, it would be a great gesture to help the club from those that could afford it and would be paying closer to what the full membership is worth.

what about bonds, these have been touted as raising funds for sporting clubs, low yield/returns but could help a club to weather finan cial storm/invest in being better. streams for clubs

Does that mean the price should be decided by means testing for Seniors?
Surely given the choice most people would choose the most affordable (for them) option, then they may have some disposable income to spend on shirts etc. in the shop.

... price increases for the most vulnerable age group is never going to work, they're the ones less likely to go anyway.

Make pass prices a minimum charge for everyone, and by all means encourage people to pay more if they can.

Season passes purchased for more than 1 year could also work, although it would reduce income in subsequent years, but now is the one that matters at the moment.

That's not what I inferred at all, I said seniors could be asked to give over and above their already significantly discounted season pass, there would be no obligation whatsoever. That means those whom are not in any financial difficulties could give more for their passes toward the full value.


Why are you presuming that the 'seniors' are the most vulnerable, do you have access to all members incomes/excess income? Many seniors have much more expendable income than those who are payig full adult price and certainly a significant number have excess income than some young adults that the club give same discount to.
I said a small increase, say £10-£15 per membership depending on where seated, that equates to 30p per week, is that really too much to ask given the extreme situation the club/sport is in?
We could end up with an average/weak squad for more years to come because AP can't/won't invest money as he sees it as throwing good money after bad and that it's too risky. If everyone puts a small extra amount into the club by buying a membership or buying a ticket at an increased price then this eases the burden overall on AP and allows us a better financial footing to get players we need.

Vulnerable as in more at risk from Coronavirus, nothing at all to do with financial wellbeing, hence my reference to "they're the ones less likely to go anyway" at the end of the same sentence.

https://www.totalrl.com/clubs-in-race-t ... -pay-cuts/ Hull FC, St Helens, Leeds, Catalans, Huddersfield and Toronto have all agreed pay deals.

https://www.totalrl.com/clubs-in-race-t ... -pay-cuts/ Hull FC, St Helens, Leeds, Catalans, Huddersfield and Toronto have all agreed pay deals.

I suppose every players financial situation is different but its a shame they the could not negotiate a league wide reduction policy with the union to keep everything fair. Do we know if its just for this season or for longer ? It seems unfair that players from one club may have to take a 25% pay cut, especially if its for more than this year, while players on a similar contract at another club have to take 15%.

I think some of the hoo-ha is about players being asked to take pay cuts, whilst some clubs are at the same time buying new players.

I can see their point . Some Clubs trying to gain out of this situation.

If they are less likely to go then they won't buy a season pass full stop then if they believe they are vulnerable health wise so the cost of the ticket by a few pounds is utterly immaterial and will not be the difference to going/not going and buying a pass/membership.

ATEOTD it's asking some people to help the club out financially when the club has been helping them financially by given a significant discount every year based on age only, it's hardly a big ask when it's not even a requirement as per my suggestion, merely an ask.

Would you consider 30p/week to be too much of an increase for fans to help the club out, if so, could you say why? Do you not think helping the club financially is a good thing given the current dilemma not to mention other aspects of funding that mean we fall below other clubs that do better consistently?

I would say that a new director means a spread of the financial burden on AP, shouldn't we as fans also be trying to help out in some small way, even if it's just a small increase in a season pass/membership?

A lot of the Clubs social media focussing on Danny Houghton.
Has he signed on again?

And that is the Key point in all this , whilst the lockdown is on Clubs have announced Marquee players for next season whilst expecting contracted players to take a pay cut

It's a kick in the shorts for sure, whilst clubs obviously have to look to the future and build what they deem to be a winning side, all things considered the significant expenditure albeit future tense is still expenditure, and for many they'll see that as money that could be spent on wages/players being paid in full even if it is from money from next season instead so are having their payments backdated/back-loaded.
This back payment has been done for high earners from the NRL so as to get the respective club/s under the salary cap for that year, the fallout is far too often a lot of movement/loss of personnel to compensate for that back-loaded contract payment in the following year. We ourselves have seen significant player movement on loan or simply released to allow the back loaded contract payments to take place and not push the club over the cap.

If clubs are willing to do that then it seems somewhat of snub/different strokes for different folks, if clubs are handing out significant contracts (and possible fees) yet won't offer to backdate wages after asking players to take a cut.

Give it a rest you sad man that’s 3 different boards you’ve been on moaning about other clubs spending on players you sound bitter because Leeds aren’t signing any top end players

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Good news that the players (Carlos, Houghton, Lane and Shaul) have signed.

I think with the current situation that we need to retain as much of this squad as possible.

I like the words of Last about the way he wants us to play.

Hopefully that's the way we will play, as we have the players for it, no more prop driving in on the 4th tackle, 30 meters from their line.

Indeed I think big changes of playing staff currently with the current financial situation facing not only our club but the sport as a whole would be unlikely to say the least. Once things settle down and fans are allowed back in it will still take a couple of seasons for clubs and the game to start to recover financially and have confidence in its income stream again. Whether or we like it or not this is unfortunately how it will be for some time but at least we are retaining and not cutting players.

Listening to Andy Last it sounds as though he and Purtil have a completely different idea on how they see the team playing compared to Radford. Hopefully they will stick with this and get the team playing to the strengths of the individuals but also more importantly as a team.
Its very interesting to hear Andy Last mention the fact that he wants to play expansive rugby and bring in support play etc which is something most of us have been crying out for for years.
Whilst Last has only been a coach within the club he has a good track record within the club coaching the youth teams and has done his apprenticeship in the coaching ranks. With Purtil alongside him we have two good coaches and this can certainly do us no harm in giving them both a chance to show what they can do in this unprecedented season.

I do think after the first 3 of 4 games we will see whether they have not only implemented big changes in terms of play and structure but also if they can impart that on to the players in a way they understand etc.