I obviously cannot speak for other pass holders but when i say i may not renew mine for next season that doesn't mean i'll stop supporting the team / club or stop going to games. What i might do is pick and choose the games i want to attend as opposed to shedding out money in advance for what is effectively cr*p entertainment.

I have followed Hull since the late 80's and like many of us i have seen worse sides and darker days but i bugrudge (especially in these economic times) paying top dollar watching some of thee worst rugby i have witnessed at the club.And i mean being bored senseless while watching it. I class myself as lucky to have the money to spend in advance and buy merchandise as and when i like but i ain't wasting season pass money on this......I'd rather lose games but go down in a blaze of glory rather than do what we do now!

But at least you will force the board to acknowledge that you are unhappy with what’s going on

Will be re-newing mine........i have a great seat at the back of the esat stand on the H/W line and that is a maajor reason.....i dont re-new and i lose that seat and apart from the seat i would re-new anyway as i have seen a damn sight worse than this....the Tony Gordon,Len Casey,Peter walsh era's were all worse and we nearly went out of buisness........the board need to wake up and see that if they give us a team that plays with pride and 100% we will turn up in our droves to watch.

But after saints we will probably be 9th - this saying but we are still 6th etc only 4 points off the top and so on is a bit clutching at straws isnt it

The way i see it is simple. If i go for to a restaurant every week and as time goes by, the Chef starts serving up awful food. Eventually I will stop going until; he brings the food up to the required standard, changes the menu or the owner changes the chef.

I would not continue to go in the hope that one day a decent meal falls out of the kitchen!

Erm not at all. It is a FACT. We are currently 6th in the league. Whether we stay there or not is irrelevant.

If thats your opinion then fine, but Hull FC, the team I have supported all my life, means a little bit more to me than a feckin restaurant.

Not [ireally[/i the same thing though is it.

I think they are, with their poor recuitment and retention policies and lack of ambition. I think it's an insult.



I don't think they care, they certainly have shown no signs at least.



I don't think it should take that long if some common sense were applied and a genuine effort made. And whilst it's easier said than done, clubs with less going for them than us have fared better in recruitment in recent years than us, so there is something drastically wrong.



I think our position is a slightly false one TBH. On current form Warrington are better than us, Catalans are still in a state of change, and I also expect at least 2 of Wakey, Cas and Wigan to overtake us before the season's out.

I reckon that mentality at christmas would have been great for City come the end of the season. I bet all of them still think it's just bad luck they didn't make europe.

So it's irrelevant if we slip further down the table? Also we are currently in 6th yes and if you are happy with this then goody for you...i for one feel we as a team have gone backwards with what appears to be little or no action taken to sort the problems out. In 2004 we had an excellent side that played some of the best attacking RL i have seen a Hull side play.....since those days we have gone to one of the least entertaining...at such an alarming rate!!!

The principle is the same though.

If we continue to get served rubbish on the field why would people go? We've already seen a huge drop in attendance (14K to 12K to 11K in three home league games) and people vote with their feet. I'd be surprised if we get 10K for Saints especially if it's on telly

Oh ffs, getting the wrong end of the stick again. My point is that whether we stay there or not, we are 6th in the table, even if we don't win a game for the rest of the season we will still have been the 6th best side at the half way point and therefore claiming that we are 6th is not clutching at straws.

Irrelevant only because there's no relegation. So you'd be happy scrapping for the wooden spoon?

before the season started we where joint top - suppose when the season's finished we could look back and say - we where joint top in feb its been a good season

If two people misinterpret your point you've obviously not made it clearly enough.

Have another go.

Oh my god.

I'm not saying anything like that. The point is we are 6th. We may well drop down the table, but we havn't yet, so the season is still alive. I'm not "clutching at straws" by saying we are currently 6th, I am merely stating a fact.

Wishfull thinking on your part darling, but once again, you are going to be dissapointed in the very near future.

Look, I'm not saying that it doesn't matter if we drop down the table. I am saying that as of now, we are the 6th best side in the country, and this is proven by the table. Tbf saying that it's irrelent wasn't a very good choice of words. But it doesn't change the fact that even if we do slide down the table we were the sixth best side in the first half of the season, and therefore havn't been quite as bad as people have made out. What we do in the second half of the season doesn't change that fact.

Fair enough.

But 6th best is not good enough, although it probably reflects the standard of play and creativitity at the moment.

No we are not we are 6th in the table at present, they are not the same thing. If we are the 6th best team then how come Warrington who are below us recently beat us at home? We are a poor team despite our current position, surely you can see that. We all love this club and the fact that we are arguing amongst ourselves shows the passion we all have for it, but things need to change and burying your head in the sand will not help one bit.

Absolutely spot on, why do people constantley think there awesome fans for supporting such crap. I regular watche dus get dicked in 99 and even watched us play in the lower divisions for a few seasons. Going since 94 I've expiernced more bad then I have good. The difference now is that we have the ability to be one of the top sides in the country, yet we just seem happy to have a board who take our money in exchange for excuses. When our passion is matched on the field and in the board room I may start to reconsider my decision.

Anyone who dare to say to me the any kind of wether bull can go and themselves considering half of them probably didn't care when they really was needed.

Hi James.