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| Quote ="Kosh"Two tries from defensive errors, two tries from poor decisions by the officials. And our attack just isn't good enough to come close to compensating.'"
Yes but it would be a hard person who critised the defence today imo. Thought it was excellent generally. Although Galea owes the side an apology for that first try but otherwise had a decent game
Agree about attack generally but Houldsworth and Horne are really starting to ask questions imo and I think that will mature as the season progresses.
Poor officials tonight. robbed Hull imo.
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| Quote ="Kosh"He gave a drop out that never was and they scored from the resulting set; he gave at least one forward pass that wasn't just because the crowd shouted; and he plus his TJs missed the forward pass in a second Hudds try.
Other than that he was almost average.'"
Always going to make a few mistakes and I'm sure if you look back he will have made some in our favour also, he didn't give hudds a penalty until about the 60th minute, are we that disciplined?
He had a good game.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Quote ="Kosh"Always the same with us. We need to be good enough that bad calls don't cost us games, because we're always going to get them.'"
Really felt we give that a good go and deserved at least a point. Defence outstanding on the whole.
Shannon had ball on the pitch - Went to drop out and they scored.
Made a break away and forward pass - they scored from it.
We have a try scored - Forward pass, not given.
Very disappointing, not with the team, but with the result.'"
The Shannon decision was infuriating. Our forward pass was fair enough in one sense. Annoying cos far side touchie calls it when near side was ok with it. huddersfields final pass for Wardle try was probably more forward.
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| Quote ="Bal"Yes but it would be a hard person who critised the defence today imo. Thought it was excellent generally. Although Galea owes the side an apology for that first try but otherwise had a decent game'"
It was Green at fault for the first one, not Galea. And Crooks for the second. Otherwise I thought the defence was mostly excellent.
Quote ="Bal"Poor officials tonight. robbed Hull imo.'"
Bentham seems to not like us much. Worth around 10 points for Hudds IMO.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Always going to make a few mistakes and I'm sure if you look back he will have made some in our favour also, he didn't give hudds a penalty until about the 60th minute, are we that disciplined?
He had a good game.'"
Agreed. Instead of relying on the officials to win us a game we need to start relying on our ability to do so.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Always going to make a few mistakes and I'm sure if you look back he will have made some in our favour also'"
Very few. And none that were critical or resulted in a score.
Quote ="Dave K."he didn't give hudds a penalty until about the 60th minute, are we that disciplined?'"
We were tonight. So were Hudds. Not many pens to either side.
Quote ="Dave K."He had a good game.'"
He really didn't. Not quite as bad as when he reffed us against Wire, but not far off.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Agreed. Instead of relying on the officials to win us a game we need to start relying on our ability to do so.'"
Nobody relies on the ref to win us games. It'd be nice if they didn't contribute to us losing them though. But I did say a few posts ago that we need to get good enough to win despite dodgy officials, because they're all poor and not getting any better.
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| Didn't think DJs kicking game was as good as it could have been tonight.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Didn't think DJs kicking game was as good as it could have been tonight.'"
I think we're going to have some more problems with him. Reported by RH that he was very sick on the field immediately after the game
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| Agreed. Instead of relying on the officials to win us a game we need to start relying on our ability to do so.'"
Bull that I'm afraid. You can't go away to the league leaders n have such a basic call as Shannon bringing the ball into play and getting a drop out against him. We don't concede a try there at a good point of game for us. Argument for a try before h t. The final pass for Wardle try is probably more forward than our ruled out try. On another day with some other inconsistent officiating there would be a big points swing. Officials make games a lottery.
I've watched 4 N R L games this weekend and between them all I've seen less officiating mistakes than in this game
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!":h3rw52i8Agreed. Instead of relying on the officials to win us a game we need to start relying on our ability to do so.'"
And we need to convert sets of six in the opposition twenty into tries, which we don't do anywhere near enough. We could bat this back and forth all night if you want As I've said we didn't play badly tonight but it takes more than that to beat good opponents.
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| Holds worth shouldn't have played tonight- he's clearly not fit, he threw up on the pitch. He needs rest!
Credit to you you defended really well in the centre and kept our pack very quiet. Those "gash" players cudjoe and mcgilvray along with wardle kept us in it- and finished you off. Targeting murphy didn't really pay off, but you kept hoping. Once you get some players back you'll be giving a lot of teams a run for their money. Good luck for the rest of the season- except against us.
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| Until you get some craft to match your effort i fear you will have plenty of nights like this. I thought that you may edge it at half time and that the rain could play into your hands but ultimately it must be so frustrating for your forwards to be charging head long into battle with little or no direction.
Hats off to Danny Houghton for his defensive performance but the reality is he needs spelling so that we see more of him offensively. Pitts was hardly used tonight so surely Cunningham could have been used for 20 minutes to give Houghton a breather. Would have made more sence in my opinion.
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| Great defence and we really didn't deserve to lose, however we don't have the quality to open up defences when we have good field position. holdsworth obviously isn't right which is a real worry a month after his injury.
Worrying thing is it's another game where we've come away with no points and I think we could come out of the easter period with only 7 points from a possible 20 which would really make it difficult for us to even reach the top 8 at the end of the season
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Great defence and we really didn't deserve to lose, however we don't have the quality to open up defences when we have good field position. holdsworth obviously isn't right which is a real worry a month after his injury.
Worrying thing is it's another game where we've come away with no points and I think we could come out of the easter period with only 7 points from a possible 20 which would really make it difficult for us to even reach the top 8 at the end of the season'"
Have to agree with that. Think we can get a result next week but not confident at all for the derby.
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| Still too one dimensional. We desperately need some guile & craft to push us above a mid table team.
It's really important the club finally address this in the next off season.
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| Quote ="Smiggs":2yopmpmqQuote ="airliebird,runninglate!":2yopmpmqAgreed. Instead of relying on the officials to win us a game we need to start relying on our ability to do so.'" :2yopmpmq
Bull that I'm afraid. You can't go away to the league leaders n have such a basic call as Shannon bringing the ball into play and getting a drop out against him. We don't concede a try there at a good point of game for us. Argument for a try before h t. The final pass for Wardle try is probably more forward than our ruled out try. On another day with some other inconsistent officiating there would be a big points swing. Officials make games a lottery.
I've watched 4 N R L games this weekend and between them all I've seen less officiating mistakes than in this game'" :2yopmpmq
And we need to convert sets of six in the opposition twenty into tries, which we don't do anywhere near enough. We could bat this back and forth all night if you want You mean "look forward to".
Quote ="R.B.A"Hats off to Danny Houghton for his defensive performance but the reality is he needs spelling so that we see more of him offensively. Pitts was hardly used tonight so surely Cunningham could have been used for 20 minutes to give Houghton a breather. Would have made more sence in my opinion.'"
Good point. Agreed with the bench against Huddersfield's big pack,but as it turned out Pitts was a wasted interchange.
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| You shouldn't beat yourselfs up for losing this one, Hudds are top on merit & it was a gutsy effort. Still lacking invention though. Chuck to Manu & see what happens has now been replaced with lump it in the air & see what happens.
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| This is what i wrote on Thursday.
Quote Durham Giant wrote:
Looks like a toss up between cording and fairbank.
Hull look like going with no interchange hooker and 6 props. 3 on the bench and one at loose forward.
Broughs kicking and mobility will be the key.
=#FF0000Might be an idea to run at Houghton and tire him out will stop him running from Dummy half.'"
That is what we did.
64 tackles from Houghton superb defensive effort from him but he never really got on the front foot and got his forwards going.
If they had a bench hooker I think that game would have been closer.
cannot criticise your team at all superb defense, good team ethic just missing a bit of quality and maybe a couple of your players carrying knocks. Holdsworth is a class act just need to get him right and you will start winning games. There are not many teams who would have broke your defence down .
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| Really good effort but lack couple of players who can change the game. Our attack is very slow and predictable
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Really good effort but lack couple of players who can change the game. Our attack is very slow and predictable'"
Attack was slow, but Giants' wasn't particularly quick either.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"This is what i wrote on Thursday.
That is what we did.
64 tackles from Houghton superb defensive effort from him but he never really got on the front foot and got his forwards going.
If they had a bench hooker I think that game would have been closer.
cannot criticise your team at all superb defense, good team ethic just missing a bit of quality and maybe a couple of your players carrying knocks. Holdsworth is a class act just need to get him right and you will start winning games. There are not many teams who would have broke your defence down .'"
Think we did a good job on Brough and Crabtree in particular. Not a bad effort with 6 first teamers out, but with or without Holdsworth our attack lacks structure and we don't have enough runners. Still mad about McDonnell and the dropout-try that resulted, but credit to you, strong pack, lively halves, athletic outside backs. Hope you sustain your current form and go on to seriously challenge this year.
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| Giants deserve more people watching them as well.
Be interesting to see if they can maintain their form throughout the season. Could do with some more teams pushing Wire, Leeds, Wigan & Saints.
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