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| Quote ="Sheldon"I know clubs do it but what sort of code does this send to youngsters?
The way you put it is that you agree.
It's a good job Ian Huntley was never awarded caretaker of the year.'"
You know what he meant and its slightly different to Ian Huntley don't you think?
IN any event, I know what you are saying, but the message to the youngsters should be that if you are a bit average, then do not under any circumstances eff up, and aim to get better. If you are a lot better and eff up, you might get away with it.
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| According to the Club Statement...
'Hull FC have suspended Martin Aspinwall pending an internal....'
Regardless of what Aspinwall may have done, you have to admire Adam Pearson for his intention to carry out a full, thorough investigation!
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| Quote ="nosneb"dont get me wrong i agree its a different ball game now, and im not defending him you but you can,t stop players having a drink'"
I think we could and should be able to. We are paying them to be professional sportsmen. It is there only job to perform to their utmost best for the team and adapt their lifestyle to this affect.
If they know this before they sign we could kick out this culture completely. If they drink at all they lose a weeks wages as they are knowingly affecting their performance and unless they are top of the table they have scope to improve.
I'm only an amateur sportsman but wouldn't dream of drinking during endurance training blocks and haven't for the last 6-7 weeks.
In my experience when I've been at my fittest and performing at a high level I don't really fancy the thought of pints of beer. Maybe there's something in that......
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| There are Rules that have to be followed before you Sack or terminate a contract
its a Disciplinary Procedure All good Companies have them if not followed it could be costly to Club/Company ..Let wait the out come before we want rid of of the player
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| Disappointing, but hardly surprising.
In an ideal world you wouldn't have any players with reputations for excessive drinking or criminal behaviour in the squad. Realistically however, when considering signings, it is necessary to try to balance what a player can bring for you on the pitch with the level of risk they pose off it.
On that basis, Seymour was arguably worth the gamble. Aspinwall never was in a million years.
Where I agree with Sheldon is that, once the players are part of the club, you don't want to be seen making the same distinction. Again though, I can see how in reality doing that becomes almost inevitable.
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| That was exactly my point Garry.
It happens but it shouldn't, Smiggs was implying it should be the code of conduct.
It makes me wonder if the club implement media and social training, some of the comments on twitter makes me think otherwise, a night out for the players differs to ours immensely from male and female attention both positive and negative.
When fans and players say the should be able to celebrate or commiserate after the game with a few (to many) beers I disagree and so does Wayne Bennett.
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Why am I not surprised that RL Fans is better moderated than The Sun? (Or does The Sun have that much money to pay legal fees it can print what it likes )
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Why am I not surprised that RL Fans is better moderated than The Sun? (Or does The Sun have that much money to pay legal fees it can print what it likes )
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| Quote ="Kosh"Quote ="Marfa Manu"Not sure what your post is about'"
So it seems.
OK - consumption of quantities of alcohol way too great to be good for health is pretty rife. The phrase 'like a few' - in the way that it's normally used - IMO trivialises this fact. Pro athletes have more reason than most to avoid alcohol as it has some fairly extensive effects on human physiology and interferes with fitness/recovery in relatively small quantities. Hence my comment about it not mixing well.'"
Spot on.
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Old news clearly they have been trolling facebook,
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Old news clearly they have been trolling facebook,
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"You appear to be confusing 'like a few' with getting 'ed', 'legless', 'a@rsholed' and 'p!ssed'.'"
You appear to think that only getting physically incapacitated counts as drinking too much. A little research may change that opinion, especially when it comes to pro sports.
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| Quote ="Kosh"You appear to think that only getting physically incapacitated counts as drinking too much. A little research may change that opinion, especially when it comes to pro sports.'"
It's amazing how little people know, especially players, on the effects of alcohol up to 3 days after a game.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"
My point is Wolf we get wrecked '"
I think that was Kosh's point too.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Why am I not surprised that RL Fans is better moderated than The Sun? (Or does The Sun have that much money to pay legal fees it can print what it likes
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Why would the sun have to pay legal fees ? It never ceases to amaze me about how RLfans gets all excited about sub judice cases. All the sun is doing is reporting what he was arrested for and when, thats perfectly above board. What's not allowed is discussing the details of his arrest in case potential jurors are influenced by something thats hear outside of court, I saw only one vague post so far on RLfans thats done that.
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| Quote ="Kosh"You appear to think that only getting physically incapacitated counts as drinking too much. A little research may change that opinion, especially when it comes to pro sports.'"
No I don't, I am more than aware of drinking limits and the effects I see it on a regular basis at work!
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I think that was Kosh's point too.'"
Tongue in cheek...
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu" double post, whoops'"
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| Quote ="steve_norton"Why would the sun have to pay legal fees ? It never ceases to amaze me about how RLfans gets all excited about sub judice cases. All the sun is doing is reporting what he was arrested for and when, thats perfectly above board. What's not allowed is discussing the details of his arrest in case potential jurors are influenced by something thats hear outside of court, I saw only one vague post so far on RLfans thats done that.'"
RLFans get's 'all excited' about [isub judice[/i cases because they have the [ipotential[/i to get the site closed down and the owners fined large amounts of cash. And while you may be aware of the limits to what can and can't be discussed, many people who post on here are not. Hence the blanket ban.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"mmm.... I seem to remember we had a world class aussie loose man who , with many other players , frequented W & Cat and all kinds of monkey business went on there , allegedly i hear . No-one ever ever said get rid. Shame on you 2 faced posters'"
At the time, this Aussie carried the entire team, and never once looked like his alleged off the field behavior affected his performance. Anyway, it's a ridiculous comparison because this said player was not at any time arrested and plastered all over the papers making our club look foolish, after having plenty of previous!
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Quote ="Rock God X"I think that was Kosh's point too.'"
Tongue in cheek...'"
I'm not so sure. Plenty of otherwise mature, responsible people are happy to brag/joke about how much they had to drink at the weekend. That they behave well whilst drunk doesn't alter the fact that regular binge drinking is not good for anyone's health.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"That they behave well whilst drunk doesn't alter the fact that regular binge drinking is not good for anyone's health.'"
Yeah, but it's so fun!
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| Very disappointing new regarding Aspinwall. Glad the club have acted swiftly, don't think he will be given the boot though. He will get another chance, upto him to take it.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I'm not so sure. Plenty of otherwise mature, responsible people are happy to brag/joke about how much they had to drink at the weekend. That they behave well whilst drunk doesn't alter the fact that regular binge drinking is not good for anyone's health.'"
Your not sure my comment was tongue in cheek? I am sure Wolfie will confirm my comment was tongue in cheek! I assure you I am not a binge drinker! and I am more than aware of the effects of binge drinking.
Like most I have been drunk though, and my point is so have many and yet they know how to behave, maybe my idea of being drunk is different to others, I for one have never being that drunk I am not aware of what happened or what I said etc.
Not sure where this is going as my orignal reply is that I saw no problem with players having a few drinks, not once did I suggest they get plastered..Most adults/players are aware of how many drinks to consume without resorting to binge drinking, and I am sure most players enjoy one or two pints on a w/end after a game.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Very disappointing new regarding Aspinwall. Glad the club have acted swiftly, don't think he will be given the boot though. He will get another chance, upto him to take it.'"
I saw all the players out on Saturday night and some of them was knocking back the shots like no tomorrow, also coming out of the arena one player was chucking his beer all over someone in the foyer and the door supervision had to intervene, not good in my book when they should be setting an example. That said player also came with a reputation for his drinking.
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