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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"The sad thing for Michaels is that based on overall consistant performance he's done better than all the first pick backs aside from JS. He's the the best defensive back including Yeaman/Shaul and given he played right across the back line without any problems I think he was unlucky to be dropped.
Whilst Yeaman has improved it's a lot easier for the pressure/focus to come off in a winning team, he's lost a yard or two and his go forward is no better or worse than Michaels was. He still pulls out the odd excellent tackle but still completely misses others (as in notgetting there at all) and I honestly still think he doesn't get involved enough,
Fonua is very suspect position wise on his D and only the last month has started to put a shift in but given the extra couple of stone he's carrying from his NRL peak and his dodgy knee at season start (which clearly hindered him) he's never a winger atm hence why shifted inside which defensively is a mistake IMHO.
If we have Fonua AND Griffin as our centres then the inside defenders are going to work extra hard I'm afraid as that will continue to be our weakness. In attack it's looking great.'"
The thing is Knocker Yeaman is from Hull, close to the coach and a long serving player..Had this not been the case he would never have been offered a contract extension based on his previous 2 years form.
With regard to extending his current contract for another year as someone has pointed out can you imagine the uproar on here if the club announced the signing of a 33 year old average centre for the 2017 season because thats what Yeaman is.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"The sad thing for Michaels is that based on overall consistant performance he's done better than all the first pick backs aside from JS. He's the the best defensive back including Yeaman/Shaul and given he played right across the back line without any problems I think he was unlucky to be dropped.
Whilst Yeaman has improved it's a lot easier for the pressure/focus to come off in a winning team, he's lost a yard or two and his go forward is no better or worse than Michaels was. He still pulls out the odd excellent tackle but still completely misses others (as in notgetting there at all) and I honestly still think he doesn't get involved enough,
Fonua is very suspect position wise on his D and only the last month has started to put a shift in but given the extra couple of stone he's carrying from his NRL peak and his dodgy knee at season start (which clearly hindered him) he's never a winger atm hence why shifted inside which defensively is a mistake IMHO.
If we have Fonua AND Griffin as our centres then the inside defenders are going to work extra hard I'm afraid as that will continue to be our weakness. In attack it's looking great.'"
Quote ="bonaire"The thing is Knocker Yeaman is from Hull, close to the coach and a long serving player..Had this not been the case he would never have been offered a contract extension based on his previous 2 years form.
With regard to extending his current contract for another year as someone has pointed out can you imagine the uproar on here if the club announced the signing of a 33 year old average centre for the 2017 season because thats what Yeaman is.'"
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| Quote ="Isaiah"'"
Is there still an end of season awards ceremony on this forum? Banker for post of the year.
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| Quote ="Isaiah"I'm with stupid'"
Fixed that for you
So rather than have a useful debate about the pros and cons of the team and individual players based upon our signing and whom should be retained you resort to an inane childish post.
Truly pathetic and deraillment of thread...
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| I'd get rid of Yeamo too, but he's the only one that qualifies for the 10 year service £50k allowance. Now I wouldn't imagine he's on much more than that, so essentially he's a free player.
It's simply up to the likes of Logan/Griffin/Turgut/CT to be better than him.
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| Good signing is Griffin, think we'll still sign a 6 too.
Would imagine we'll move Michaels & Pryce on, think I'm right in saying Ellis & Mini have signed on to slightly reduced deals next year, so I certainly see enough cap room.
Don't want Soward though.
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| soward is 32 in november. would hope we would be looking at a younger half. also he's not been in decent form since 2014 after his first season at penrith
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| Quote ="*1865*"I'd get rid of Yeamo too, but he's the only one that qualifies for the 10 year service £50k allowance. Now I wouldn't imagine he's on much more than that, so essentially he's a free player.
It's simply up to the likes of Logan/Griffin/Turgut/CT to be better than him.'"
Didn't Houghton make his debut in 2007, so would that count next year?
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| Quote ="Mr Bloggs"Didn't Houghton make his debut in 2007, so would that count next year?'"
Correct, so £50k doesn't count on his salary next year if we release KY
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| It does make me laugh that people comment that £50k is a "free" player, still have to pay them £50k, how many posting on here get that?
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| It's £50k off the SC though. I think that's what people are getting at. £50k to spend on another players wage.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"It's £50k off the SC though. I think that's what people are getting at. £50k to spend on another players wage.'"
You may well be right, but is any RL player worth £50k in the first place? A nurse gets £30k...?
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"It's £50k off the SC though. I think that's what people are getting at. £50k to spend on another players wage.'"
You may well be right, but is any RL player worth £50k in the first place? A nurse gets £30k...?
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| Quote ="crumpledshorts"You may well be right, but is any RL player worth £50k in the first place? A nurse gets £30k...?'"
Think that's why Scott Taylor didn't go nursing.
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| [url[/url Quote ="crumpledshorts"You may well be right, but is any RL player worth £50k in the first place? A nurse gets £30k...?'"
A little off topic don't you think?
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Correct, so £50k doesn't count on his salary next year if we release KY'"
Yeamo will sign for next season, also AP wants to buy city.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"[url[/urlA little off topic don't you think?'"
Agreed, apologies. But the idea that £50k is "free" is a bit silly.
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| Quote ="*1865*"I'd get rid of Yeamo too, but he's the only one that qualifies for the 10 year service £50k allowance. Now I wouldn't imagine he's on much more than that, so essentially he's a free player.
It's simply up to the likes of Logan/Griffin/Turgut/CT to be better than him.'"
I wondered whether Houghton may become eligible next year?
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| Quote ="crumpledshorts"You may well be right, but is any RL player worth £50k in the first place? A nurse gets £30k...?'"
Hardly the debate, but as you have brought it up.....
A nurses starting salary will be less than £30k.
But comparing RL players with Health professionals is not like for like.
In any profession its what ever someone is prepared to pay. RL players sacrifice life time careers to play for a shorter working life.
Its a winless debate.
Back no topic.
Of course the £50k must be paid for but in terms of the Cap it does give a bit more wriggle room.
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| Good signing. He's been the Salford player I've admired the most and he always seems to score against us.
Welcome to Hull Josh.
I've noticed people referring to Turgut as a potential centre. Does this thinking come from the club or is not just speculation?
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"Good signing. He's been the Salford player I've admired the most and he always seems to score against us.
Welcome to Hull Josh.
I've noticed people referring to Turgut as a potential centre. Does this thinking come from the club or is not just speculation?'"
Its direct from Richard Horne
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| If that is the case then we have 6 centres Yeaman based on what EastHullFc says, Fonua, CT, Griffin, Logan and Turgut.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"If that is the case then we have 6 centres Yeaman based on what EastHullFc says, Fonua, CT, Griffin, Logan and Turgut.'"
When did I say that? I've never mentioned turgut? Plus CT will be 6. You make it up as you go bumpy.
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| Turgut is a backrower, he sat in front of me today and I had a chat with him, he sees his future in the backrow, but is happy to play there is required.
Pearson had a really good chat with him at HT, the way he spoke to him and encouraged him was brilliant to here. If you either get chance sit near AP, he shouts like a fan, it's great to here his passion.
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