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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"So why wait for them to come before you offload him then???'"
Squad numbers are always important.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Squad numbers are always important.'"
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Yeah ok
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OKay then to spell it out, Lee is purely a squad player although with the options we have I don't see him getting much gametime. However as we are waiting for two players to come over and with the injuries we already have to Motu, Byrne, Washy, Whiting and King then it would be wise to keep hold of Lee for a little while longer.
I just don't see a future for Lee at Hull.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"So why wait for them to come before you offload him then???'"
Like Paul said squad numbers, if a prop was to get injured now, we could move Radford up to prop, and use Lee at LF.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Like Paul said squad numbers, if a prop was to get injured now, we could move Radford up to prop, and use Lee at LF.'"
That would depend on how Whiting is getting along.
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| If we are talking about bench spots and Berrigan is fit I'd pick Lee in front of Houghton because he offers more options coming off the bench, coving more positions for injuries and spelling.
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| Quote ="Monday morning coach"If we are talking about bench spots and Berrigan is fit I'd pick Lee in front of Houghton because he offers more options coming off the bench, covering more positions for injuries and spelling.'"
You're way too sensible for these boards and you won't fit in with the clique with comments like that.
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| Quote ="Monday morning coach"If we are talking about bench spots and Berrigan is fit I'd pick Lee in front of Houghton because he offers more options coming off the bench, coving more positions for injuries and spelling.'"
Interesting debate isnt it, do we want our bench players to cover in case of injuries or do we want them to bring impact like is required in the modern game most of the time.
Personally i would go for Houghton out of the 2. He gives the impact needed and should he be needed to cover other positions he can do. (or Berrigan can be moved as a last resort)
I actually would personally not play an interchange hooker as Berrigan plays 80 but thats just me. I would have a bench of Thacks, Lauaki, Manu and Burnett/G Horne if all players were fit.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"You're way too sensible for these boards and you won't fit in with the clique with comments like that.
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put berrigan at full back he was fantastic cover there in last match of season against quins and put lee at hooker and houghton on bench
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Eh
OKay then to spell it out, Lee is purely a squad player although with the options we have I don't see him getting much gametime. However as we are waiting for two players to come over and with the injuries we already have to Motu, Byrne, Washy, Whiting and King then it would be wise to keep hold of Lee for a little while longer.
I just don't see a future for Lee at Hull.'"
I may be laughed at, but I wonder how he would go at full back?
If rumours with Motu and Byrne have any truth, we could get found out. I would hate to see us having to move Thorman there, because of lack of cover.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Interesting debate isnt it, do we want our bench players to cover in case of injuries or do we want them to bring impact like is required in the modern game most of the time.
Personally i would go for Houghton out of the 2. He gives the impact needed and should he be needed to cover other positions he can do. (or Berrigan can be moved as a last resort)
I actually would personally not play an interchange hooker as Berrigan plays 80 but thats just me. I would have a bench of Thacks, Lauaki, Manu and Burnett/G Horne if all players were fit.'"
Agreed, this is an interesting debate, and one we possibly couldn't have had without the injury crisis last year. Man of our young players got more superleague and big match exposure last season than would have been the case without all the injuries. The great thing now is that the coaches and us as fans in our discussions can have informed debates about their relative merits, rather than feeling like we're going with unknown quantities. Again, bodes well for the long term future. Also agree that I wouldn't like to see Thorman at Full-back- he's performing too well in the halves.
As for the fullback role, I may live to eat my words, but I've seen a lot of Catalans in the last couple of seasons and they tend to prefer the grubber kick rather than the high ball. The full-back for Friday therefore needs to be a good sweeper and organiser.
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| Quote ="bestgameofall"Agreed, this is an interesting debate, and one we possibly couldn't have had without the injury crisis last year. Man of our young players got more superleague and big match exposure last season than would have been the case without all the injuries. The great thing now is that the coaches and us as fans in our discussions can have informed debates about their relative merits, rather than feeling like we're going with unknown quantities. Again, bodes well for the long term future. Also agree that I wouldn't like to see Thorman at Full-back- he's performing too well in the halves.
As for the fullback role, I may live to eat my words, but I've seen a lot of Catalans in the last couple of seasons and they tend to prefer the grubber kick rather than the high ball. The full-back for Friday therefore needs to be a good sweeper and organiser.'"
Although his organising qualities are somewhat untried, its every rugby players job on the pitch to communicate to the line regarding postioning, when to pull or push etc, so its not as if the communicating aspect will be foreigh to him. Also, i think his ability at picking up the loose balls is very good, he has fantastic hands, and would feel more comfortable with him fielding the grubber than the high kick.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Interesting debate isnt it, do we want our bench players to cover in case of injuries or do we want them to bring impact like is required in the modern game most of the time.
Personally i would go for Houghton out of the 2. He gives the impact needed and should he be needed to cover other positions he can do. (or Berrigan can be moved as a last resort)
I actually would personally not play an interchange hooker as Berrigan plays 80 but thats just me. I would have a bench of Thacks, Lauaki, Manu and Burnett/G Horne if all players were fit.'"
IMO, its more about maintaining a level of team performance, so 2 props and a 2nd row plus a utility player would be an ideal. I wouldn't have an out and out hooker on the bench unless there was a chance that the guy there couldn't do 80 minutes. Lee can cover hooker but he can also cover the back row and half back and probably even centre so he adds more value to the 17 shirt. For that reason the only change I'd make to your bench is Lee. On the other hand if Washbrook isn't starting he would do the same job but with bells on.
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| Quote ="Monday morning coach"If we are talking about bench spots and Berrigan is fit I'd pick Lee in front of Houghton because he offers more options coming off the bench, coving more positions for injuries and spelling.'"
Although a sound suggestion, I still feel it's playing the percentages and feel we must go for impact with Hougton at hooker, who knows Berro could get injured (God forbid).
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| I'd be tempted to keep Berrigan on for full 80 minutes, bring Houghton and put Berrigan at Loose forward.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I'd be tempted to keep Berrigan on for full 80 minutes, bring Houghton and put Berrigan at Loose forward.'" good call, if that was the case would you go with a bench of 3 forwards (one being Houghton) 1 back?
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| Quote ="Holty"good call, if that was the case would you go with a bench of 3 forwards (one being Houghton) 1 back?'"
We have no backs to go on the bench they are all playing or injured.
No I would stick with Manu. Thacks, King and Houghton.
Worst case we could put Berrigan in the backs, would try and avoid this at all costs though.
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| Quote ="Dave K."We have no backs to go on the bench they are all playing or injured.
No I would stick with Manu. Thacks, King and Houghton.
Worst case we could put Berrigan in the backs, would try and avoid this at all costs though.'"
i dont understand why backs are on the bench tbh. if the worst comes to the worst berro could move in to half backs or centre but i dont think you should waste a bench spot just in case some one gets injured.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"i dont understand why backs are on the bench tbh. if the worst comes to the worst berro could move in to half backs or centre but i dont think you should waste a bench spot just in case some one gets injured.'"
Only time it is worth it is if you have someone like Whiting or G. Horne who can play in the threequarters and the pack. Unless you go into a game with severals injury concerns over some of the backs.
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| Quote ="Dave K."We have no backs to go on the bench they are all playing or injured.
No I would stick with Manu. Thacks, King and Houghton.
Worst case we could put Berrigan in the backs, would try and avoid this at all costs though.'"
Fully agree!!! Friday will be much more of a battle of the forwards, keep Greenshields quiet and we should have this one !!! IMO
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Fully agree!!! Friday will be much more of a battle of the forwards, keep Greenshields quiet and we should have this one !!! IMO'"
Add Mogg and Bosc to that one.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Add Mogg and Bosc to that one.'"
to name just another 2. Not to mention Bell and Pirlo etc.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"icon_smile.gif to name just another 2. Not to mention Bell and Pirlo etc.'"
AC Milan midfielder??
Or Pelo the french winger??
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| Quote ="Irregs #16"AC Milan midfielder??
Or Pelo the french winger??
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Thats the one, didnt think it looked right!
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