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| Quote ="Big Dave T"That can't be their only appearance though. I'd like to see Lyne come into the side for a couple of games too.'"
Lyne not good enough yet IMO. Loan him somewhere else for a while, or dual reg him.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Lyne not good enough yet IMO. Loan him somewhere else for a while, or dual reg him.'"
but this is the thing, we can't keep shipping players off, if the coaching is up to the job then there is no reason why a 19 year old can't make it, good enough is better than old enough. Our currnet recruitment seems to hinge on being old, past it and in no need of coaching.
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| Quote ="Standee"but this is the thing, we can't keep shipping players off, if the coaching is up to the job then there is no reason why a 19 year old can't make it, good enough is better than old enough. Our currnet recruitment seems to hinge on being old, past it and in no need of coaching.'"
It's not about shipping him off, it's about giving him a chance to play a better standard of RL then he would at U20s. Not good enough for SL last yr and this year, so needs a bigger challenge to develop further. That's what the dual registrations are all about.
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| Quote ="Standee"but this is the thing, [uwe can't keep shipping players off[/u, if the coaching is up to the job then there is no reason why a 19 year old can't make it, good enough is better than old enough. Our currnet recruitment seems to hinge on being old, past it and in no need of coaching.'"
Why not? it seems to be good enough for teams like Wigan,Leeds and Warrington?The experience of loaning them out,seems to have benefited them.
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| Quote ="Standee"but this is the thing, we can't keep shipping players off, if the coaching is up to the job then there is no reason why a 19 year old can't make it, good enough is better than old enough. Our currnet recruitment seems to hinge on being old, past it and in no need of coaching.'"
Championship is a damn sight better standard of rugby than u-20s and would do him good....no-where near 1st team standard yet.Would be replacing 1 dodgy winger with another one.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Championship is a damn sight better standard of rugby than u-20s and would do him good....no-where near 1st team standard yet.'"
Agreed
Quote ="fc baldy"Would be replacing 1 dodgy winger with another one.'"
Disagreed. Sharp is a damn sight better then Lyne. Will develop into a really good player IMO.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Agreed
Disagreed. Sharp is a damn sight better then Lyne. Will develop into a really good player IMO.'"
WILL develop but is costing us trys for fun at the minute.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"WILL develop but is costing us trys for fun at the minute.'"
Not solely he isn't. He has cost us some, but not as many as is being made out.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Not solely he isn't. He has cost us some, but not as many as is being made out.'"
2 last week...1 v cas...wigan away.....costing us too many atm in my view.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"
Disagreed. Sharp is a damn sight better then Lyne. Will develop into a really good player IMO.'"
Do you not think lyne will also develop into a really good player??
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| just a thought, could you leave out briscoe instead and play sharp and lyne for the derby game please?
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| Quote ="Freddy Lee"Do you not think lyne will also develop into a really good player??'"
Not so sure yet.
When I look at outside backs of his age who are playing far better standard then he is, such as Arundel, Charnley, Evans, and Foster, then no. I think given a chance to play a better standard then U20s would improve him, though.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Agreed
Disagreed. Sharp is a damn sight better then Lyne. Will develop into a really good player IMO.'"
When will he develop? He's already 23
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"When will he develop? He's already 23'"
Ah, yes, but he's never been coached by Agar before.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Ah, yes, but he's never been coached by Agar before.'"
I like tommy's thought process though. It's obvious that a 24 year old (not 23 as I thought) with a stack of SL games under his belt has more development in him than and 18 year old who has played no more than a handful
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Not so sure yet.
When I look at outside backs of his age who are playing far better standard then he is, such as Arundel, Charnley, Evans, and Foster, then no. I think given a chance to play a better standard then U20s would improve him, though.'"
charnley and foster are 19 coming on20. reece just nicely turned 18. arundale evans playing in teams flying high! they never stood out any more than him for england academy few months back. Reece has played either against top teams with us under the kosh or when we been really poor! can't think of one clean pass or kick4him to chase. if team turns they're form around and he comes in i think he'll stand out more!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"When will he develop? He's already 23'"
I apologise. I forgot there is an age when you stop developing.
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"charnley and foster are 19 coming on20. reece just nicely turned 18. arundale evans playing in teams flying high! they never stood out any more than him for england academy few months back. Reece has played either against top teams with us under the kosh or when we been really poor! can't think of one clean pass or kick4him to chase. if team turns they're form around and he comes in i think he'll stand out more!'"
18 and 19 are similar ages in my book. My original comment was that Lyne hasn't looked the part so far and would benefit from a dual registration contract, playing in first team RL every week in the national league, which is a far better standard then U20s is. I hope he does come on and improve and eventually make the standard which is needed for Super League.
Sharp has already proved himself as an SL winger, having played 3 seasons for Harlequins, but will continue to develop into an even better player IMO.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I like tommy's thought process though. It's obvious that a 24 year old (not 23 as I thought) with a stack of SL games under his belt has more development in him than and 18 year old who has played no more than a handful'"
Which is why I think the club should dual reg him.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"I apologise. I forgot there is an age when you stop developing.'"
Not surprised, it was probably some time ago when you hit it
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"18 and 19 are similar ages in my book. My original comment was that Lyne hasn't looked the part so far and would benefit from a dual registration contract, playing in first team RL every week in the national league, which is a far better standard then U20s is. I hope he does come on and improve and eventually make the standard which is needed for Super League.
Sharp has already proved himself as an SL winger, having played 3 seasons for Harlequins, but will continue to develop into an even better player IMO.'"
The difference between someone who is nearly 20 and someone who is only just 18 is massive
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Not surprised, it was probably some time ago when you hit it'"
Nice!
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Which is why I think the club should dual reg him.'"
Can you dual reg a 24 year old?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The difference between someone who is nearly 20 and someone who is only just 18 is massive'"
Which is why I will, again, go back to my original point. He isn't going to get into our side at the moment unless injuries occur, so a dual reg would benefit him! Full season playing first grade every week, this time next year he will have developed greatly IMO.
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Quote ="Jake the Peg"Can you dual reg a 24 year old?'"
Nope.
"The player must be under 23 on August 31 in the year preceding the season in which the proposed dual registration will apply".
www.thisislancashire.co.uk/sport ... explained/
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Quote ="Jake the Peg"Can you dual reg a 24 year old?'"
Nope.
"The player must be under 23 on August 31 in the year preceding the season in which the proposed dual registration will apply".
www.thisislancashire.co.uk/sport ... explained/
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