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| Quote ="ccs"He was talking about employing a "top class" coach, whatever that means.
I guess in your world Last wouldn't be paid off, just sacked, saving even more money.'"
Yes i know but freeing the salaries of Radford and Last would have paid the salary or much of it of a top coach if we had someone in mind.
We all understand the complication of Covid 19 but we are still a top class side on paper and to be appointing Last in my opinion is not the right message to send out to our players and the S/L world.
Clean sweep with Purtill as the interim coach was the better option to take .
Its much easier for a new man at the club to instill his own ideas,discipline and respect than the local man Last who has been sitting in a cozy safe position as Radfords assistant for years.
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| Well Craig Fitzgibbon won't be coming any time soon
Quote “I'm ready to be a head coach, I've done a lot of hard work to be ready, but I have an agreement with Nick and Robbo and I'll honour that,'' Fitzgibbon told the Sydney Morning Herald.
"It's a matter of integrity. Those two are two of my closest friends, I shook hands and looked them in the eye and said, 'I'll be here this year and next year', and I'll be honouring that."'"
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| We won’t get anyone . Finances will see to that !
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| Quote ="bonaire"Yes i know but freeing the salaries of Radford and Last would have paid the salary or much of it of a top coach if we had someone in mind.'"
They would both still (almost certainly) have cost a years salary whether they were working for the club or not.
How many coaches, in the current climate, would change jobs mid-season and travel across the world to join a club in severe financial difficulties?
Not even next years squad is guaranteed.
None is my guess.
Last is here for this season at least, demanding he goes became very tedious 3 months ago.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Yes i know but freeing the salaries of Radford and Last would have paid the salary or much of it of a top coach if we had someone in mind.
We all understand the complication of Covid 19 but we are still a top class side on paper and to be appointing Last in my opinion is not the right message to send out to our players and the S/L world.
Clean sweep with Purtill as the interim coach was the better option to take .
Its much easier for a new man at the club to instill his own ideas,discipline and respect than the local man Last who has been sitting in a cozy safe position as Radfords assistant for years.'"
Hopefully you've registered for the members meeting tomorrow night and can put this opinion forward to our CEO.
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| Funny this but one thing that was mentioned was that Last was the one advocating a change in direction onfeild when games were slipping and Radford maintained his “gut feeling” game plan, basically he wouldn’t be swayed. I’m sticking to “give Last a chance” let’s see how he utilises Purtill and Ellis, the A team’s been scrapped anyway.
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| I'd also like to see Andy given a chance til the end of the season.
He did say in an interview he'd like to change things up, so I for 1 would like to see how he goes and what changes he would implement.
He could prove to be a good head coach but whichever way he deserves a chance.
Wane sees something in him, so maybe his input was stifled by the previous coach, only time will tell and ultimately the club currently saves the salary of a head coach during these difficult times.
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| I see Wigan Athletic have gone into administation. (They're no longer owned by Dave Whelan.)
One odd comment - "Stanley also confirmed that the administrators have control over Wigan's DW Stadium and training ground as well as the club itself."
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| Quote ="ccs"I see Wigan Athletic have gone into administation. (They're no longer owned by Dave Whelan.)
One odd comment - "Stanley also confirmed that the administrators have control over Wigan's DW Stadium and training ground as well as the club itself."'"
questions need to be asked as the football club only got new owners a few weeks ago......something doesn't add up.....
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Funny this but one thing that was mentioned was that Last was the one advocating a change in direction onfeild when games were slipping and Radford maintained his “gut feeling” game plan, basically he wouldn’t be swayed. I’m sticking to “give Last a chance” let’s see how he utilises Purtill and Ellis, the A team’s been scrapped anyway.'"
I've said before that as Radford had control of all aspects I think this was his downfall with his blinkered vision. You only have to look back when AP stated we needed some extra help in the coaching set up and yet Radford said its not something he is looking at or was needed, then Purtill was signed 2 weeks later.
It does seem that very little input was taken and used by Radford, so hopefully Last & Purtill can make the changes that are and were needed and bring in fresh game plans and structures.
The club and players needs stability right now so its a no brainer to let Last, Purtill and Ellis have a crack and to be honest we should know in 3 or 4 games if things have improved or not from Radfords tenure.
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| I dont often watch NZ Warriors as they are usually disapointing, and unsure if finances would allow it...but Blake Green is leaving them at the end of the season. 34 soon but was always a good performer for Wigan and Rovers back in the day.
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| Would rather have Kyle Eastmond who's been released by his union team. 30 years of age, brilliant running game , maybe too expensive though, although only 50% of his salary would count towards the cap in his first season. 75% in season two.
Shame coronovirus has struck would be a perfect Kelly replacement
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Would rather have Kyle Eastmond who's been released by his union team. 30 years of age, brilliant running game , maybe too expensive though, although only 50% of his salary would count towards the cap in his first season. 75% in season two.
Shame coronovirus has struck would be a perfect Kelly replacement
As seen with Connor , without a running half next to Sneyd we are very predictable.'"
Cant beleive he is still only 30, feels like he's been on the go forever. And agree Connor isnt the answer at 6.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Would rather have Kyle Eastmond who's been released by his union team. 30 years of age, brilliant running game , maybe too expensive though, although only 50% of his salary would count towards the cap in his first season. 75% in season two.
Shame coronovirus has struck would be a perfect Kelly replacement
As seen with Connor , without a running half next to Sneyd we are very predictable.'"
It will be interesting to see what Last does with Connor,particularly as its Albos final season here.
The mistake Radford made was to give Connor the 6 shirt then playing him ahead of Kelly.
Probably contributed to losing his job.
Our best and balanced team should always be on the field even though players are leaving and that includes playing Ratu and Kelly at 6.
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| It's a difficult situation as if Connor insists he wants to be a 6 I can only see a parting of the ways. Unless he's happy to play centre where I think him and Fonua will be dynamite.
The only other option was at fullback which is now ruled out due to Shauls new deal. I'd of released shaul and played Connor as a creative pivot there, with Wynne used as backup.
I think we l see Carlos there personally, unless we can really scrape some funding together by January
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| Quote ="bonaire"It will be interesting to see what Last does with Connor,particularly as its Albos final season here.
The mistake Radford made was to give Connor the 6 shirt then playing him ahead of Kelly.
Probably contributed to losing his job.
Our best and balanced team should always be on the field even though players are leaving and that includes playing Ratu and Kelly at 6.'"
Kelly at 6 every day of the week for me. Can't remember a time when we've had 3 quality centres in the squad like we do now, but can't help worrying that we will lose Carlos even though it sounds like we're not planning more departures. Not heard anything, just a concern.
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| Connor deserves a chance, showed in a few games including internationally he can play 6, streets ahead of Carlos as a half.
Need to keep as many players as possible and hopefully recruit at least one player, other teams recruiting and retaining, even Cas and Salford who have alot less money than us or doing things in the market.
I really thought we would challenge but a mixture of keeping Radford too long and Covid has set us back.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Connor deserves a chance, showed in a few games including internationally he can play 6, streets ahead of Carlos as a half.
Need to keep as many players as possible and hopefully recruit at least one player, other teams recruiting and retaining, even Cas and Salford who have alot less money than us or doing things in the market.
I really thought we would challenge but a mixture of keeping Radford too long and Covid has set us back.'"
He's a petulant little person, never a six.
Cam Smith, 2 years plus an option (if one of us wins the lottery tonight)
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| James Clarke was on Humberside this afternoon (for about 15 mins at 2.35 if you are interested in listening back) . Clear that we're not going to be recruiting at this point - as for most clubs retaining passholders is the #1 priority to enable a decent squad going forwards.
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| What games has Connor shown he can be a 6?
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"What games has Connor shown he can be a 6?'"
Of the top of my head, Cas in the cup 2017, Salford away 2017, Rovers at home 2019, Leeds away this season. GB vs new Zealand
There are a few more, I watched alot of old games over this lock down and he had some really good games, the majority of games he has had has been in 2018 and 2019 behind a beaten pack. Connor is a much more creative than Carlos at 6. Connor is our best passing, along with Kelly the only player who can put a player through a gap.
Put Connor at 6 and carlos in the centre behind our pack in 2016 and we would have done the double.
Never had a good enough run at 6 with a good pack and deserves a chance.
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| It might not work and he needs to improve his attitude when things are going well, but if given the freedom (I honestly think Radford had a too tight game plan) and some confidence behind our current pack he could be one of the best half backs in the league.
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| Quote ="Dave K."It might not work and he needs to improve his attitude when things are going well, but if given the freedom (I honestly think Radford had a too tight game plan) and some confidence behind our current pack he could be one of the best half backs in the league.'"
I don't share your confidence, but I hope you are right and, if given the chance, he proves to be even an above average 6. all day long for me though.
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