One loss and a big panic, Paea has been very good lately, but is playing for a contract, maybe the same for Green.

Our squad is two big this year, slimming it down is the right move.

If we can sign another prop plus Sao (Who mainly plays prop) We will be fine.

Making 60 tackles a game is not really the main task of a hooker but tackles seem to be the only thing ever mentioned in relation to Houghton.

it gets mentioned alot, because the amount of tackles he makes is unbelievable.

Has alot more to his game, very underrated by fans, you only notice how important he is to our team when he is missing.

Don’t think there’s a big panic Dave, but we were beat upfront against rovers, and watching saints yesterday Walmsley was probably the main reason they won, with his go forward.

Fafita is another who fits the super size prop mould, he’s another match winner. There’s a few others around who are not quite at this quality, Bullock, Masoe, Pauli, the young kid from London, forgot his name etc.

So not that many available in the super size bracket, a deal must be over the line with an NRL prop if the statements regarding Greeny are true.

It’s actually difficult to judge sometimes whether it benefits or harms his reputation more.

Like Rory Delap only really being known for his long throws, or something. Is it what he’d want to rest his personal RL legacy on? It’s a both impressive and also feels like a bloated stat, similar to John Stockton’s NBA career assist record, or some elements of Russell Westbrook’s triple doubles. I’ve been watching a fair bit of basketball recently.

Fair play to DH though, he will have a legacy to be judged on.

Sao and Satae props. It's a shame we haven't kept Westerman.

Disappointed Green is going, along with Paea he's been our best prop recently and is at his peak in terms of years. Plus he's non qouta. Also there's no guarantee that the incoming players will adjust to super league and be a success.

If you look at it I'm not sure such a massive overall of the squad is necessary given where we are at at the moment. However l still have faith in the club to get it right.

He is a top tackler. He is reasonable in other areas of the hooker role but just maybe he does not shine as much as he could/should because most of his energy is used in tackling which as I said is not the main function of a hooker. It does seem to be his main function and is lauded by many FC fans. I would want a hooker to be more rounded and although it is early day Parcell was a good example.

As Dave said, DH has a lot more to his game, evidenced when he has moved to loose forward during a number of games this season.

Undoubtedly, but that’s probably not what he’ll be widely remembered for.

He doesn’t seem egotistical, so I doubt he even cares. And the fans of his own club know his value.

I just wonder whether he deserves more appreciation than ‘one-club man and tackling machine.’ from other fans. The praise he gets is a bit narrow and means he’s perceived as being more one-dimensional than is really the case.

Good point about his move to loose forward last year. Proves he’s not one dimensional.
He’s just so good at tackling, it overshadows the other parts of his game.
Not as good as Parcell though, he’s as good as Cameron Smith.

Don’t worry about the praise our Danny gets, he was anointed in Queens Gardens by twenty thousand, and affirmed the following year at the City Hall.

Excellent

Oh, there’s no doubting the level of appreciation from Hull fans.

Even I advocated his Man of Steel award, or at least anticipated it. While pointing out his uncanny resemblance to cro-magnon man, admittedly.

I just wonder whether it is more stereotyping him than it is celebrating his talent. To some extent it is both, imo.

I wonder if he embraces it or whether he feels a bit like ‘there is more to my game than that’.

When he switches to loose forward, does he play in a noticeably different way. Or does he just tackle a lot without going into dummy half so much?

Gets his hands on the ball a lot, and to good effect. To be fair, we’ve maybe been guilty of not using those skills enough.

Better distribution and finding touch with decent kicks. Becomes another pivot.

Very good player, and could well become the first to reach 400 appearances for Hull since Brian Hancock. That’d be some achievement in the modern era.

I think a lot of Hull fans (me included) take him for granted and don’t realise how good he actually is. Think he’s the glue that holds it all together.
Like the previous poster said, he’s really capable at being another pivot. Think it shoes how he sacrifices some of his abilities for the greater good of the team.
In 40 years of watching Hull I can count on one hand the number of players I’ve actually had a conversation with (never meet your heroes

), but Danny H is one.
Think you’d struggle to meet a more humble person. Genuinely good guy.

This is a typical Rovers response, you are getting carried away, same as you did with Lunt and the likes of Keinhorst etc.

He has played one game FFS, he has been pretty average the last two season, whilst Houghton has been consistently very good, Parcell has a good running game, that's it, certainly not rounded that Houghon, Mcshane has been spoken as been better than Houghton, but Danny usually out plays him.id only have Clarke and Robyin front of Houghton.

Off topic

Buchanan scored 2 tries and 7 goals (22pts) playing at full back for Doncaster this afternoon. Hadley and Brown also played in the game.

Coventry 10 - 54 Doncaster

I think that sums it up pretty well. He allows those around him to be better without always doing spectacular things himself.

Actually the opposite of Westbrook, now I come to think of it. The only similarity is commentators focus on stats with them.

The only time you realise how good Houghton is is when he isnt playing

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Fully Agree

Over the years we have had players with unquestionable abiloty but just lacked the application, a shame, but that is just how it seems to unfold with some players.