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| Quote ="Neil HFC"THey've both been released by Crusaders.'"
not surprising!!!! tommy lee will probably end up at wakey and thacks at york
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"not surprising!!!! tommy lee will probably end up at wakey and thacks at york
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Or they will be unveiled as part of a treble signing for you lot along with Cookie
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Or they will be unveiled as part of a treble signing for you lot along with Cookie'"
east hull pubs could do with the extra trade,so the next port of call................
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"saints didnt think so...hence his release'"
same saints that offered him a years contract was it??
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| long has been a disappointment for me. Even when he has played he's been average at best most of the time. I know his season has been (very surprisingly, didn't see that coming) blighted by injury, but other than the 2 saints games he's been fairly anonymous. May have a lot to do with the lack of quality around him and the way we play the game, however I have to say i expected more. On Saturday night he should have been demanding the ball and directing play when we had all of those PTB's in their 20 but he was stood out of the way most of the time
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"long has been a disappointment for me. Even when he has played he's been average at best most of the time. I know his season has been (very surprisingly, didn't see that coming) blighted by injury, but other than the 2 saints games he's been fairly anonymous. May have a lot to do with the lack of quality around him and the way we play the game, however I have to say i expected more. On Saturday night he should have been demanding the ball and directing play when we had all of those PTB's in their 20 but he was stood out of the way most of the time'"
Or he did want the ball but it never went to him?
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| mixed bag from him this season imo, hopefully he will have a good last season playing,
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| Quote ="Punos"Or he did want the ball but it never went to him?'"
All match? Unlikely
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| He was very poor on Saturday night. All he did was pass the ball along the line, hardly ran with it at all and his kicking game was poor. Very disappointing.
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| Perhaps his poor performance was down to him being rusty having played only one game in months, you can't just turn form on.
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| Quote ="Desertdog"Although I'm an FC supporter, I live in Chester, and end up attending Knowsley Road with Saints-supporting friends as often as the KCS. Regarding Long, I think it's broadly true that it was principally the term of the deal offered by Hull that swayed him. But as to the money on offer in Yorkshire versus that in Wigan, whatever Sean's version of events, ask yourself whether there was ever a chance of him seriously competing with Tommy Leuluai to be the starting No 7. He's been in the game long enough not be delusional about such things. Having watched him for several years at Saints, let me say that one aspect of his performances which became as apparent as any other week in, week out, was that his kicking game, place and open field, had degenerated to the point of at times becoming almost a liabilty. Not a secret on Merseyside, and should have been picked up by the deal-doers at the KCS.
My problem with Sean and Richard Horne is not that they're our first-choice partnership in the halves. There's certainly quality and experience in abundance there. It's more the naivity of thinking an increasingly injury-prone almost 35-year old player, and No 6 whose health has unfortunately been less than ideal in recent times, are the stuff on which the prospects of a team as ambitious as Hull FC should be based. And if the directors and the coach in their collective wisdom felt that such a risk was acceptable, to at least fail to have the safety net of capable reserve players waiting to step into the breach should the probable happen, could be argued to be little more that negligent.
A final thought. I don't decry the quality of our overseas acquisitions this season. Ogre and Fitz have been first-class. But if you were going to build a team from scratch, and salary-cap restriction meant that money was tight, and you clearly thought that you needed a new scum-half, which position would you start with? Brian Noble had six weeks to assemble a team at Wrexham, and brought in Michael Witt.'"
Well mate, I think that is as good a first post as I have ever read.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Perhaps his poor performance was down to him being rusty having played only one game in months, you can't just turn form on.'"
I thought he played much better against Leeds than he did against Rovers.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"not surprising!!!! tommy lee will probably end up at wakey and thacks at york
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Tommy's signed a 2 year deal with wakey
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| Longy had nothing to play behind....pack never got on top as expected. Then the No.6 they have trained with all week drops to fullback......didn't help. Although you have to cater for those eventuallities.
The disappointing performance was right across the board not just Long!
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| Quote ="Wee Man"Tommy's signed a 2 year deal with wakey'"
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| Quote ="Wee Man"Tommy's signed a 2 year deal with wakey'"
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| Quote ="blackwhite"Longy had nothing to play behind....pack never got on top as expected. Then the No.6 they have trained with all week drops to fullback......didn't help. Although you have to cater for those eventuallities.
The disappointing performance was right across the board not just Long!'"
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Perhaps his poor performance was down to him being rusty having played only one game in months, you can't just turn form on.'"
Spot on. Not matter how many times you say it people will always just point the finger mate.
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| Quote ="Standee"unfortunately, he is, stark, raving certifiably bonkers.'"
know him do you
I always saw him as a very calm, cool and calculated type...
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| Quote ="EXPRO"know him do you
I always saw him as a very calm, cool and calculated type...'"
you either missed the fact I was talking about Tansey, or you condone what he's been upto recently.?
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| For me the only way we are going to get the best out of him next year is to sign a pacey no 6.
this would allow Long to drift in and out of play and direct the game, whilst the 6 does the running.
Horne and Long would be an absolute disaster next season, they are both too slow.
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| Quote ="UllFC"For me the only way we are going to get the best out of him next year is to sign a pacey no 6.
this would allow Long to drift in and out of play and direct the game, whilst the 6 does the running.
Horne and Long would be an absolute disaster next season, they are both too slow.'"
The best way to play Long next year is to pick and choose his games. Dont think his body can hack a full season. If we sign a half back i'd like to see Long play 60-70% of games by choice.
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| Quote ="UllFC"For me the only way we are going to get the best out of him next year is to sign a pacey no 6.
this would allow Long to drift in and out of play and direct the game, whilst the 6 does the running.
Horne and Long would be an absolute disaster next season, they are both too slow.'"
Totally agree. The only way to get the best out of Long next year is, injuries aside, to have a pacey SO along side him and that is certainly not Horne.
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