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| has he got pace, or has he got pace for a forward?
maybe he just looked quick playing against a load of union plodders
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| I was always led to believe that the quota or non fed restrictions where brought in to encourage clubs to develop young English talent, so we would be able to challenge on the international scene?
Surely if he makes it in the game he would be eligible to play for England?
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| Quote ="Kosh"In that case I'm not sure how he can ever play in SL as he won't be able to get 3 full seasons in before he turns 21. Maybe the rules aren't quite as strict as they appear?'"
Or maybe Rule plans on trying to get the RFL to change the rules on Union players from this country been classed as non fed players. The clubs all meet end of the season and discuss/vote on things like this. He's got 2 seasons to get the RFL to change the rule to make it more fair. That'll be why his contract ends 2011, when he turns 21 and becomes non fed under current rules.
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| just been reading up on him, nice little article snippit here (form Sep 09)
Quote The College worked closely with Hull Rugby Union Football Club (RUFC) to perfect the formula for the Academy and the Club will also provide coaching and sports development advice to the Academy scholars.
The club's director of sport, former Tongan international Tevita Vaikona and head coach and Hull FC captain Lee Radford work closely with all of the scholars during regular training sessions to make sure they consistently meet the high standards set by the College and the club. The first cohort of six Academy scholars joined the College at the end of September and are settling in well.
Tevita Vaikona is pleased with the way the Academy is progressing, "It's working really well. Those guys who perhaps weren't sure about playing rugby or joining the team are now seeing Laurence and the rest of the scholars setting an example and it's encouraging them to get involved. From the Club's point of view it's proving to be very successful. We've got some very good players who are working extremely hard. It's looking very promising."
The scholars' arrival coincided with the opening of the College's new Centre for Sport & Fitness so the they and the rest of Bishop Burton's student population will be able to train using some of the most modern equipment available.
Laurence Pearce (1icon_cool.gif of Lincoln has joined the Academy on a 100% 'Elite' scholarship - the highest level possible - which means he has all of his residential and course fees met by the College. He turned down a place a Loughborough College to join the Academy at Bishop Burton, "It's a great place to live and study - it's got a really friendly atmosphere and everyone knows everyone. It's like one big family and that's why I decided to come to Bishop Burton. Being part of the academy is great - training is very rigorous and within a few days of arriving I was playing for Hull Rugby Union and helping to win matches for Bishop Burton College."
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| Quote ="Willa"I'm guessing that if he is under 21 a similar situation to Lovegrove will be on the cards in that because he is a non-fed player when he starts his contract he would remain that until he leaves that club'"
He would have been classed as a home trained player until the begining of 09, but after that he would have gone back to a quota player, as he wasn't at your club for 3 years before he was 21.
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| The last version of the rules I saw said something to the effect that, exemptions can be applied for and will be considered on a case by case basis, so I think there will be flexibility and room for common sense 'interpretations'.
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| Quote ="gazcoops"He would have been classed as a home trained player until the begining of 09, but after that he would have gone back to a quota player, as he wasn't at your club for 3 years before he was 21.'"
Who are you taking about? who do you think my club is?
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| Quote ="Willa"Who are you taking about? who do you think my club is?'"
Your Avatar looks like one of the Rovers members so i guess he has mixed you up.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Your Avatar looks like one of the Rovers members so i guess he has mixed you up.'"
That's what I thought
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| Quote ="gazcoops"He would have been classed as a home trained player until the begining of 09, but after that he would have gone back to a quota player, as he wasn't at your club for 3 years before he was 21.'"
Now we have determined that I am a hull fan your above quote basically states what I was saying.
Lovegrove is classed as non-fed but doesn't count towards the quota because he was there before he was classed as non-fed, changing this status would result in possible loss of earnings and court action against the RFL
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| What do they feed him!
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| Quote ="super_fc"What do they feed him!'"
Salmon, Caviar and Hog Roasts is the usual post match grub aint it
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Salmon, Caviar and Hog Roasts is the usual post match grub aint it
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Clearly the club dont feed him stats! we still dont know how old he is
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"Clearly the club dont feed him stats! we still dont know how old he is'" He's 19! Born 3/12/90.
Granted i had to get it from Hull RUFC website.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"He's 19! Born 3/12/90.
Granted i had to get it from Hull RUFC website.'"
But why cant our club do a simple thing like that. It takes six key strokes. nothing. We look feking stupid again.
Right 19 then, he'll be a backrower by the age of 21 and at Rovers by the age of 23 then
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"But why cant our club do a simple thing like that. It takes six key strokes. nothing. We look feking stupid again.
Right 19 then, he'll be a backrower by the age of 21 and at Rovers by the age of 23 then'"
You sound even more pessimistic than i do
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"But why cant our club do a simple thing like that. It takes six key strokes. nothing. We look feking stupid again.
Right 19 then, he'll be a backrower by the age of 21 and at Rovers by the age of 23 then'" And obviously an England international by 24!
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| If he were any good at union he'd have been picked up by a premiership or 1st division club I'd have thought
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If he were any good at union he'd have been picked up by a premiership or 1st division club I'd have thought'"
you beat me to this message!!!!! iwas just wondering the same!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If he were any good at union he'd have been picked up by a premiership or 1st division club I'd have thought'"
Different structure as to how it works in union.
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| Lets face it decent british props are thin on the ground, he certainly has the size and can obviously run with the ball having gained various representative honours in the u18's. If he doesn't work out so be it but we need to start looking for our next bunch of props because good ones are going to become like proverbial rocking horse manure.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Different structure as to how it works in union.'"
You think a top quality junior wouldn't have been picked up by the age of 19? There are kids playing premiership rugby at 19
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| If they are in the right place though Jake.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"=#0000FFYou think a top quality junior wouldn't have been picked up by the age of 19? There are kids playing premiership rugby at 19'" It happens a lot more than in any other sport. You're right that there are a lot of kids aged 19 playing premiership, but the usual age for debut is around 22.
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| Quote ="hullbg"If they are in the right place though Jake.'"
If they're good enough they'll be in the right place.
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