Looked about that many and made it a better atmosphere, hope the clubs work together again to market games as they may need to if Rovers and Bradford dont sort themselves out.

The KC just isnt a home for us and the atmosphere is far from intimidating for opposition players. We actually play better away from home when the core supporters lift the team.

Without a doubt. We've been a mid table team, last year apart, for many years, with mid tier resources and decent attendances, yet there's a prevalent attitude of entitlement in some sections of our fanbase. Based on what I'm not sure. As a fan away games are more enjoyable, so can only imagine not dissimilar for players. Fans more vocal and supportive away from home, without a doubt.

But it's wrong to suggest as Mr Marrow did that those who go away are 'core' supporters. Some people just cannot afford to travel away every other week.

As for the home/away record, well the home record over the last year or two is a concern but in 2014 our away record was W2 D1 L10 and we lost the Magic game too. In 2015 we lost nine on the road so it'd be wrong to suggest that the away crowds are more valuable.

The crowd/atmosphere/being at home has no relevant impact on player performance, a coach/player may say it does but it simply does not.
Oh look I'm more motivated as a player to play better because fans are cheering me, utter gash.
if players are that affected by how much a crowd is cheering then they are mentally weak and/or the mental preparation by the coach is non existant or equally feeble.

Giving away cheap tickets for the Catalans match was a mistake, on the back of last years CC win fans should have being itching to watch the first home game and paid full pop.
Now casual fans are like, meh, you know what I'll wait until we get a £5 offer because there's no way I'm paying £22/£26 to watch that garbage.
I'm a 'casual' attendee in that i don't get to as many games as I'd like, i'll turn up and pay full whack whether we are dog-do or playing great, once I add in travel costs that's £70 straight up but I can do that, it's really when I'm in town/can get up that dictates what games I come to.

for many others though that are deciding whether paying out £xx or even £xxx to come watch us is worth it or a day out somewhere else for a lot less with a guarantee of entertainment/fun that decision is much less likely they'll choose to come watch the rugby.
Times are not what they used to be, there's so much more for families/people to do.

Got to agree with what's being said.
Sometimes it's like morgue in the kc
1500 Leeds fans were louder than us at times on Friday!
The south east corner fans always try to create some atmosphere
but the rest of the stadium tends to drift in and out as the game goes on.
We should be constantly getting up the oppositions noses give them grief
And intimidation. Classic example was Wigan at home last season,
The fans got on Sam Tomkins case the whole game- and it literally took him out of the game

Depends on the chants!

From where i was sat in the south east corner it was fairly quiet and most fans where in disbelief at the shocking attempts at tackling senior players were making. But when we got back to within eight points the noise level went right up and we really got behind them then of course yet more dumb decisions by the idiots on the pitch and the mood sank again then once the gap started opening up again everyone thought f**k this and left. It was the players who let the club down against Leeds and not the fans

Just seen the attendance of 15500 so with 2000 from Leeds thats 13500 from FC up about 3000 from normal so 3000 floating fans paid good money to come back and support the team and the players let them all down - those 3000 fans will probably be thinking twice before coming back again soon imo and that was my original point

Good Friday though, lots won't be at work and in seasons previous it's against the bin dippers so fans need a big game to turn up for. i expect the next home game will be around 11,000, if we beat Cas then that could well go up, if we lose miserably then the casual fans will think, sod it, not wasting my money on that.
It's not about being fickle, it's about judging if spending X is worth it (for any given individual) if the entertainment aren't going to make much effort/be a poor spectacle as per the Salford and Leeds games then why should fans be expected to pay good money (just to avoid being called fickle or unloyal as many do) especially if that is running into three figures when taking kids and drinks/food out into account.

Radford today "Our away support was phenomenal. They lifted us at times."

Yep a pretty good FC 1-13 (on paper) managed to beat the SL new boys who are struggling badly with loads of injuries by just 14 points and it was the fans that made all the difference



Fek me without those amazing fans would we have lost again?



So.............why didnt the 13500 home fans against Leeds make any difference then?

Why so angry?

Because your an annoying f**cker

so are you

Calm down, its just a discussion platform.

Goodness me. After all your spleen-venting on Friday you're still not happy despite having saved £200 by not going again. It's almost as though you would you have preferred a loss today to fuel further denigration of the club. Strange..

No not at all - im happy for the win but unhappy that it makes people like yourself get all giddy. Forget the table - look at this seasons performances or indeed last seasons from about 2-3 games before the CC final - we have been very average throughout. You wont see that of course as the mouthpiece of the club but quite a few others do hence the static 11000 attendences.

don't think anybody getting giddy, just the drip drip drip drip drip drip drip, of you finding ways of talking down hull fc, just my opinion of course

"Getting all giddy"? What have I said to justify that comment?

The final league table (which of course is the only one that matters) is based over the full year though and last year we finished a very creditable third.

Attendances aren't static at 11,000 - the ones in your timeframe have gone

9936
10494
11686
17453
13544
11587
10814
11016
15487

Pretty healthy. I'd love us to get 13,000 or more every game but then all barring a couple of the other clubs in Super League would be delighted with what we get.

Its a Sunday afternoon game against Cas.We missed a big opportunity against Leeds to add some fans but i expect a 14000 crowd as Castleford will bring at least 2000.
Cant see us winning as we struggle against the fast ball moving teams who offload at will as we did against Salford and Leeds, and Castleford on their day are a step up on those teams.

Tbf so far this year Cas are a step up from everyone. Apparently we may have Houghton, Green and Griffin back, Bowden a chance also. TBH I'd probably keep 1-7 as per today.

Houghton and Green a plus,doesnt look like Bowden will make it.
Griffin adds nothing for me.Had one decent game going forward against Wigan,then we found out that Gelling had suffered an injury during the warm up and played on but was taken off later in the game.The less said about his defence the better.
So i agree keep 1 to 7 as per today.

we were warned by the Salford fans on here though so hardly unexpected, he's been gash quite frankly.

has all the tools to be top class, but defence is a worry, would a spell on the wing do him any good? hes quick enough