Dowes, Washbrook, Long, Horne, Lauaki all to go.

McKinnon, Heremiah, Seymour, Ellis and two decent forwards in.

Washbrook, Lauaki, Fitz, Burnett and especially Long to go.

Dowes gets another year, Horne another two years, another forward in and promotion of one of the young forwards.

so agar spends 2 seasons getting his team to gether with a big clearout at the end of 09 with about 10 players leaving and bringing in about 7 players. he then has his team for 2 years and coudnt get the best out of that lot and has failed which was his team so for me where just in the same posisttion in a way by having a big clearout and starting again can i see us been better then the last 2 seasons highly unlikely

Yep.

Agar has never said he is having a big clearout this season, only the OP has.

There will be some in's and out's as they are will be in every club.

Wait until he gets his own new team and watch us fly

Long, Fitz ,Washy, Lauaki ,Burnett & Dowes and pull out of the deal with Heremaia to sign a NRL forward insted . Horne 1 year deal and use some of the potential within the U20's.

Hopefully This is what it will look like at the start of next year

Ins : McKinnon, Heremaia, Seymour, New 2nd Rower
Outs : Lauaki, Washbrook, Long, Dowes

Lauaki , Washy , Dowes and Burnett for me .
Lauaki hasn't lived up to my expectations for his size , Washy is generally used as cover in the halfs which we hopefully have in abundence next season. Dowes shouldn't have got a deal last year for me and Burnett hasn't (to my mind) done much while on loan at Quin's.

You forgot Fitz, Phelps, Burnett & Ellis. Plus I doubt Dowes will go.

Ins: McKinnon, Heremaia, Seymour, Ellis, New forward
Outs: Lauaki, Fitzgibbon, Washbrook, Burnett, Phelps

Unsure on Long, might get a pay as you play deal.

judging by the HDM article it looks like Agar is leaving it up to Long regarding if he wants to play next season

the main concern i would have is whether we could actually get 10 consecutive games from him rather than 10+ games spread across the season should he pick up niggling injuries here and there. afterall an effective HB partnership needs consistency

I have always thought we should only retain one of Long or Horne but not both of them and IMO Horne is one who warrants another year or two

Might be worth a look at matt cook. OOC atthe end of teh seaosn I think, won't cost much and has looked good when I've seen him play this season. Knows his way to the try line

he's having a good season and he's one of rovers better players so i think they would try to keep him. we can aim higher IMO

Clear out the entire coaching team.

We can aim as high as we want but.................................

Anyway, I was looking at it as a decent player for a presumably reasonable salary

i dont mean a massive clearout like end of 09 but still a fair few players will be leaving and coming in players that he has signed and clearly hasnt succeded with his team now we seem as though we need to start again by bringing in 6 or 7 new faces with the same leaving.

i reckon we may need another forward and how would the pay as you play effect the cap?

Don't worry about your garbage, we will take it

do you reckon rovers will go for washy and burnett?

Can't see Sharp staying think they will let him try find new club

Agreed. I think they have realised he isn't good enough.

but who do we get? dont get me wrong i dont think sharp is good enough but not to sure what other english wingers are out there occ

I'm not sure but its pretty obvious Agar doesn't believe he is the answer and neither do I , hodgson is ooc but think he will get new deal at huddersfield

Cant believe you was the first one to say it.

I had a massive clearout this morning after my beef madras last night