Not so much about 100% it is about safe tackling techniques which are taught from a very young age.

The concern is the "FC are yet to decide to send either for surgery/ops" bit, surely it's not a club decision, they just act on medical advice?

(unless of course we do thinkgs on the cheap?)

I thought the injections were for his knee. Might be wrong though.

Do not know how you prevent a disclocated shoulder, however one thing i have noticed is that everytime we get a player with a bad injury or needs a scan etc. we send him to a specialist in Wrexham. Now this specialist is probably at least one of the following......very good at his job, is a specialist with sport injuries, cheap or useless.

We have had damm awful luck with major injuries, my own personal opinion is that a lot of professional sport is down to the correct attitude to achieve the best. It is quite clear that in the last 2-3 seasons we are on such a downward spiral that some of our players attitudes is pish poor to say the best, therefore poor preparation for games leads to a higher chance of injury. When you add this to Hull chopping and changing conditioners each season and our seemingly lets do things on the cheap attitude, it is little wonder we are getting serious injuries


Or maybe we are just the unluckiest team in the world???

Nahhh i prefer my theory!

Well at least it gets Agar's excuses lined up for next season.

I am sure they will seek top medical help for the seriouness of these injuries. However because of the type of injury there may be a period of time before it is clear what exactly is needed. Maybe hoping the body can naturally heal to an extent before surgery is required?

Either way I really hope Agar and Sharp are not sat in their office deciding if they should or not by the toss of a coin.

They may have been actually - but its been reported that he does have problems with the shoulder

I think it was his knee because on sky when we played Rovers it was pointed out that his knee strapping was restrictive.

Not sure about Berro byt Yeamo they are waiting for the swelling to go down first.

A dislocation normally leaves the joint weaker and more prone to further dislocations. And every time a dislocation happens, it gets weaker. Repeated dislocations have been known to finish a career, as eventually the joint becomes so weak that it can pop out under no pressure at all. Operations can sometimes help, but over time the joint just gives out.

And hasn't Berro already had a shoulder reconstruction shortly before he joined us?

The medical advice may well be to wait a bit before making a decision. Or it may be ambivalent. All operations are a balance of risk and benefit after all.

If they've been told that an operation might help but has only a small chance of success, they (and the player) may be weighing up other options.

Seem to remember something about a shoulder problem a few years back and did he also not have some surgery in the last off season???

Either way its a big blow to him and could potentially ruin his upcoming off season.

It wasnt a full reconstruction was it, i thought it was a bit of a clear out - could be wrong though, [size=59I normally am![/size

Don't worry , theres always 2011...

Yes he had it cleaned out in Aus

And get the players to make there own way there at there own expense

Can it really be down to bad luck?

I'm pretty sure Berrigan had a very serious shoulder injury early in his career at the Broncos, I believe he's had major problems since then. At the Bradford game early this season, it looked like he had suffered a bad injury then - I believe that was his shoulder.

While I can see why players play through the pain barrier if they have knocks, it really suprises me when clubs in any sports continue playing players when they need surgery, and delay it until the end of the season. Its something we seem to do alot and is part of the reason why we get more injuries than we should.

He had an op just before signing for us which i believe has reduced his movement by 20% or so in the effected shoulder.

At least your first team players injuries are always covered when they get there, unlike your reserves and academy.

OOhhh, people on here wont like speculation like that! (even though it is true)

Would be devastating to lose them both for the length of time

Massive concern 2 pivotal players missing the bulk of pre-season.

Pivotal centre



thats a new one on me




PS berro wont be missing anything, he wasnt coming back till January anwyays , spat his dummy about coming back november