We could do a Rovers trick and D register Sam ..Tell the RFL we are waiting till he comes off the Quota spot
Adam has got the money

Job done

I do read on here often and I'm not dissagreeing with you about Agar, I too hope that Gentle will be the answer to take us back to the top but some people think its a done deal. The fact is he has not been a head coach before and may (And I really hope not) fail.

Every body has to start some were AP will not mess around if the man cannot cut it Why not wait and see and give the man a chance and get behind him and the players

You should be ashamed of yourself...... I have just recovered....... I started laughing that turned in to a coughing fit that had my truculent teenage daughter concerned for my life with that comment

This is my point give the man a chance and time.

You missed off Heremaia.

He counts as Federation trained as he was here before 2008.

Fed trained,but on the quota

Yes, but I think the point being made was that we have a non-fed space available even with Obst staying, it's only the quota spaces we have full. I believe it's:

Quota: O'Meley, Seymour, McKinnon, Heremaia, Obst.
Non Fed: O'Meley, Moa, Seymour, McKinnon.

So, for example, we could have kept Lauaki if we had cap space and the desire to.

This is one of the reasons I'm coming to believe it is more about the cap space than the quota spot as McRae is saying, and that perhaps Obst is on more money than he should realistically be.

If it is an Aussie they are after though they need rid of Obst as he takes up a valuable quota spot.

I'd guess obst is on £70-90k because we were desperate at the time. Way too much for a fringe player

Guy's who are our specialist 2nd row for next season? Tickle, Manu and ? I've blanked

Westerman

Westerman and Whiting at 13 for me,

Who are the lad's coming up? Interchanges? I think 3rd man in is of massive importance. (I suppose all positions are but is this being over looked).

I wouldn't be surprised, and it'll be why it's taking so long for him to go. An incredibly short-sighted signing that is biting us on backside in a big way now.

I hope that is the case, I'm just thinking that with no guarantee Obst is going anywhere we're taking a risk if we're holding out for an Aussie. Hope it pays off if we are.

Think it may be a case of paying him off,and making him free to look himself (I.E-King,Raynor,,,etc....)

And if done before end of month will count in this years cap iirc

would you think "biting us on the backside" is the best term for Sam Obst?? not exactly let us down has he or done anything against the club and if we had to run with him would do another sterling job when called upon , would you say thats a fair assesment, if anything maybe HE is thinking the move has now bitten HIM on the backside.... Iseem to remember we did this to someone else a short time ago (domic) to make way for incoming players that in hindsight was a cruel way to move players on who in reality have done nothing but their best for us?? AND I remember many saying after Sid moved it was the wrong descision
just trying to sit on the fence and look both ways here and feel a tad sorry for Sam TBH

He needs to be on the island

Hardly a bite in the backside if we get rid of him, is it? Done a good job for one season, surplus to our needs now.

Expro lives on.

I mean the move to sign him on a 2-year deal is biting us on the backside, not him personally. I don't bear him any ill will at all, we just should never have given him 2 years. Our fault entirely (or at least the old regime's fault).

If we get rid, then no, no real damage. But it's hardly been ideal, has it?

And to be honest, I'm not really all that overboard on what his signing achieved. Probably wouldn't have crept into the playoffs without him, but then again an extra -kicking against Leeds is something I could have done without, personally.