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| Quote ="Sheldon"Quote ="EXPRO"How odd given that the new extention was agreed last week?? maybe he is playing for the new contract he may get in three years time ??
Now just pending signature as is the case with 3 other players!!'"
Who?'"
Fitz, Dowes, Radford and houghton?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Fitz, Dowes, Radford and houghton?'"
correct.
1year,2 year,1 year,3-4 year,just my thoughts of course.
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| Quote ="wolfie"correct.
1year,2 year,1 year,3-4 year,just my thoughts of course.'"
Bang on the money!
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| Quote ="wolfie"correct.
1year,2 year,1 year,3-4 year,just my thoughts of course.'"
I thought that was just you trying to count to 5 again.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Madness just madness isnt it, do they fall into the cat mentioned of trolls maybe??'"
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| Quote ="wolfie"correct.
1year,2 year,1 year,3-4 year,just my thoughts of course.'"
i think the 'length' of the deals mentioned is spot on.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"How odd given that the new extention was agreed last week?? maybe he is playing for the new contract he may get in three years time ??
Now just pending signature as is the case with 3 other players!!'"
Whats odd? He's played his best rugby for the last 3 weeks and then signed a deal. He then had a cracking game v saints the week after signing a deal. I'll wait to see if Dowes keeps this form up before giving him raps. I used to be one of his biggest fans but struggle other than the last month to see his value.
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| dowes is a different type of prop.maybe we are spoilt with us having the likes of o'meley,moa and also hame when he plays there?
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"dowes is a different type of prop.maybe we are spoilt with us having the likes of o'meley,moa and also hame when he plays there?'"
Dowes, Cusack and Radford are all similar for me. Out of the 3 only Radford has an offload. Cusack seems to have rapidly gone backwards this season. I'm not disappointed with Dowes and Radfords extensions as long as both of them keep up current form.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Dowes, Cusack and Radford are all similar for me. Out of the 3 only Radford has an offload. Cusack seems to have rapidly gone backwards this season. I'm not disappointed with Dowes and Radfords extensions as long as both of them keep up current form.'"
it looks a certainty that cusack is going back down under at the end of the season,which leaves dowes and radford.the thing is who else is their that is superior to these 2 and who might be available??
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Whats odd? He's played his best rugby for the last 3 weeks and then signed a deal. He then had a cracking game v saints the week after signing a deal. I'll wait to see if Dowes keeps this form up before giving him raps. I used to be one of his biggest fans but struggle other than the last month to see his value.'"
I have criticized him a few times this season his performance's especially away at Leeds were not up to standard, that said he is on his day a valuable squad/team member.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Whats odd? He's played his best rugby for the last 3 weeks and then signed a deal. He then had a cracking game v saints the week after signing a deal. I'll wait to see if Dowes keeps this form up before giving him raps. I used to be one of his biggest fans but struggle other than the last month to see his value.'"
Some posters have alzheimers and can only remember the last 2 or 3 matches
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Some posters have alzheimers and can only remember the last 2 or 3 matches'"
Shall we go back to 2005 then when he played every game? Or the start of 2009 when he was excellent in the first few games after he did that personal fitness thing? Last season the pack was really weak with Carvellgate, Crocker not coming, Cusack, King, Thackray all injured on and off. Dowes played too many minutes and we're seeing a better player as a result of more rotation options and O'Meley and Moa in good form. FWIW I think there are priorities ahead of Dowes and Radford. In a straight choice though I'd have Dowes.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Shall we go back to 2005 then when he played every game? Or the start of 2009 when he was excellent in the first few games after he did that personal fitness thing? Last season the pack was really weak with Carvellgate, Crocker not coming, Cusack, King, Thackray all injured on and off. Dowes played too many minutes and we're seeing a better player as a result of more rotation options and O'Meley and Moa in good form. FWIW I think there are priorities ahead of Dowes and Radford. In a straight choice though I'd have Dowes.'"
Completely agree Mrs B.
I'd be happy to see Dowes get a two year deal.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Completely agree Mrs B.
I'd be happy to see Dowes get a two year deal.'"
thats what he will get.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Shall we go back to 2005 then when he played every game? Or the start of 2009 when he was excellent in the first few games after he did that personal fitness thing? Last season the pack was really weak with Carvellgate, Crocker not coming, Cusack, King, Thackray all injured on and off. Dowes played too many minutes and we're seeing a better player as a result of more rotation options and O'Meley and Moa in good form. FWIW I think there are priorities ahead of Dowes and Radford. In a straight choice though I'd have Dowes.'"
Nail on the head Mrs B...though I would like to keep both.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Nail on the head Mrs B...though I would like to keep both.'"
Depends who else we could get for Radford's salary IMO. In his favour, he's a pretty good tackler (penalties apart) and can play front or second row. On the downside he offers not a lot going forward, and seems to be blowing after about 5 minutes.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Depends who else we could get for Radford's salary IMO. In his favour, he's a pretty good tackler (penalties apart) and can play front or second row. On the downside he offers not a lot going forward, and seems to be blowing after about 5 minutes.'"
That is the million dollar question..who else could we get..I would be happy to get another year out of him.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"That is the million dollar question..who else could we get..I would be happy to get another year out of him.'"
I agree, he still does a good job for us!! His problem was that he was never a leader/motivator....
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Shall we go back to 2005 then when he played every game? Or the start of 2009 when he was excellent in the first few games after he did that personal fitness thing? Last season the pack was really weak with Carvellgate, Crocker not coming, Cusack, King, Thackray all injured on and off. Dowes played too many minutes and we're seeing a better player as a result of more rotation options and O'Meley and Moa in good form. FWIW I think there are priorities ahead of Dowes and Radford. In a straight choice though I'd have Dowes.'"
Are you sure? Most seem to be of the opinion that he has been "poor/average" for the last 2 years.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Dowes has been average now for 18 months minimum. He has looked like the Dowes of old for the last few weeks. Should it take the fact that his contract is expiring to motivate him to prove himself?'"
Think it's unfair to pick on any one player for last season.
I also think that Dowes started last season like a train and has played well this season. I know I'm stating the obvious when I say he is a workhorse prop (and a good one at that) but I will anyway. Not everyone can be a Jamie Peacock, James Graham, Fozzard (in his day), O'Meley etc.
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| Quote ="downtheante"Think it's unfair to pick on any one player for last season.
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I'm not picking on him for last season. I'm been critical of him performance wise. I'm not blaming him for the poor season.
I've been equally critical of a number of players.
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Quote ="Robbo4"Are you sure? Most seem to be of the opinion that he has been "poor/average" for the last 2 years.'"
Yes - he did that personal fitness training for a bit and was very good for the first few games when he was spelled a bit more. Then as the injuries racked up he had to play 60+ every week.
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Quote ="Chris28" Dowes was looking awesome at the start of the season but is now stagnating because he's getting too much game time. He needs a break during the game and to put in 50-60 minutes overall, not 70-80. .'"
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Yes - he did that personal fitness training for a bit and was very good for the first few games when he was spelled a bit more. Then as the injuries racked up he had to play 60+ every week.
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Quote ="Chris28" Dowes was looking awesome at the start of the season but is now stagnating because he's getting too much game time. He needs a break during the game and to put in 50-60 minutes overall, not 70-80. .'"
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"Yes - he did that personal fitness training for a bit and was very good for the first few games when he was spelled a bit more. Then as the injuries racked up he had to play 60+ every week.
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