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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I do understand our competition....Why do you keep avoiding the question ?
Strangely another poster favours the word love
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'love' is a condescending term usually aimed at females who come across as unintelligent.. It's therefore entirely fitting in your case.
I'm not going to explain the superleague competion if you don't understand it.. You've pretty much discredited everything you say in future just by what you've said here.
Thanks for unravelling, it's been a pleasure...and get on one of those evening classes!
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"'love' is a condescending term usually aimed at females who come across as unintelligent.. It's therefore entirely fitting in your case.
[uI'm not going to explain the superleague competion if you don't understand it..[/u You've pretty much discredited everything you say in future just by what you've said here.
Thanks for unravelling, it's been a pleasure...and get on one of
those evening classes!'"
Because you cannot....You have resorted to personal insults because you have been owed
Even if you class the play-offs as a separate league (blank sheet so to speak), we would be 8th at this point as Crusaders scored more points yesterday..
If you class the play-offs as an extension of the league we still hold 6th as we were 3 points above the dobbins..
Wonder if this is why all the league table place us as finishing 6th and do not provide a separate league table for the play-offs
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| Once again a half decent thread de-railed by a couple of school kids and their petty arguements. PM each other and leave us to get on with the thread.
Getting back to the thread, I would like to think the board will sit down this week and discuss honestly how the season has gone and learn from it.
Firstly I don't want to see all the hype we had last season about what is happening and what we are going to do. Big press releases and lauches etc have left us looking stupid this season. That said I can't see us shifting as many season passes so the hype will have to be there to get cash out of wallets.
I am firmly in the Agar out camp, but feel that he has taken us a step forward from last season, but an ambitious board would imo want to be taking three or four steps forward. This season I don't buy the injuries as an excuse. Leeds, Saints, Giants have all had serious injury concerns at times yet have fought through that adversity and finished above us.
For me we have thrown all our eggs in the one basket, big forwards and two veteran half backs who we do well to get on the park. Until we get a back up half back partnership ( Not Washy and A N Other) we will never be anything more than also rans. I appreciate thats easier said than done, but we now have Webster and Long to coach half backs. As I understand it Longy was brought in to help produce a new SH. Well we are half way through his contract and no sign of a new half back anywhere at the club.
I worry about next year as we seem to be spending time re recruiting players who have taken us no where this season. They are also the same players who have failed to produce a decent 80 minute performance since probably Sts away. They are also the same players who failed to get up for the games in Wales, Scotland, West Yorkshire...... Ok a further off season together might help, but it will also help the clubs who are already way ahead of us so this off season will have to be exceptional if we are to even stand still.
I await the results but can't see the woods for the trees at this moment in time.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Because you cannot....You have resorted to personal insults because you have been owed
Even if you class the play-offs as a separate league (blank sheet so to speak), we would be 8th at this point as Crusaders scored more points yesterday..
If you class the play-offs as an extension of the league we still hold 6th as we were 3 points above the dobbins..
Wonder if this is why all the league table place us as finishing 6th and do not provide a separate league table for the play-offs
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Fascinating insights into the mind of a dimwit. Just for you I'll
Email the RFL on monday and then if you've got any self respect you can apologise for all this nonsense you've been spouting...Deal?
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Fascinating insights into the mind of a dimwit. Just for you I'll
Email the RFL on monday and then if you've got any self respect you can apologise for all this nonsense you've been spouting...Deal?'"
Why would you need to e-mail the RFL, just share your theory now
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| DCW1 shouldn't say things he wouldn't say to peoples faces.. Schoolyards n all that!
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| FFS.
We finished the regular league campaign in 6th. So far BB is correct. The final positions then come AFTER the play off campaign. As things stand Hull and Crusaders are out. Crusaders finished below us in the regular season so they are 8th and we are 7th. If Rovers lose next week they will be 6th etc etc.
Therefore UJ is now correct.
UJ I would gladly tell you to grow up to your face. I do it on a daily basis and fear no one. I just get fed up of trying to read a forum when I have to plough through petty arguements like you are carrying on.
Now grow up the pair of you.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Why would you need to e-mail the RFL, just share your theory now'"
How has your husband not strangled you?.. I'll email the rfl asking who came 7th in this years competition... If they say anything other than Hull FC then you've shown me up to be a fool... If not then you've shown yourself up. Simple.
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| Quote ="DC W1"FFS.
We finished the regular league campaign in 6th. So far BB is correct. The final positions then come AFTER the play off campaign. As things stand Hull and Crusaders are out. Crusaders finished below us in the regular season so they are 8th and we are 7th. If Rovers lose next week they will be 6th etc etc.
Therefore UJ is now correct.
UJ I would gladly tell you to grow up to your face. I do it on a daily basis and fear no one. I just get fed up of trying to read a forum when I have to plough through petty arguements like you are carrying on.
Now grow up the pair of you.'"
I appreciate your frustration trolling through a debate, however I resent you telling me to grow up, my posts/replies are not childish or abusive!
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"[uHow has your husband not strangled you?..[/u I'll email the rfl asking who came 7th in this years competition... If they say anything other than Hull FC then you've shown me up to be a fool... If not then you've shown yourself up. Simple.'"
You need to cut out all the personal insults!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"eusa_hand.gif
You need to cut out all the personal insults!'"
No Lynn, you really deserve them..and it's only a couple of weeks back you were giggling about people being 'gay' 'cos they didn't agree with your views...
That's my last contribution to this anyway. I'll be back to embarrass you with a reply from the RFL next week.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"No Lynn, you really deserve them..and it's only a couple of weeks back you were giggling about people being 'gay' 'cos they didn't agree with your views...
That's my last contribution to this anyway. I'll be back to embarrass you with a reply from the RFL next week.'"
A. You spelt my name wrong, plus read the AUP
B. Never try and imply that I use homophobic behaviour!!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"We will not have to get to know each other next year, the unit is already set. Keep our halves fit and one or two more additions and we will be competing for top 4 again.'"
I see your point about next season, we have had a similar scenario over the last year or so but with what looks like major changes once again the season after next, then it will be back to square one with building a team.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"A. You spelt my name wrong, plus read the AUP
B. Never try and imply that I use homophobic behaviour!!'"
I couldn't care less Lynn, as long as there are terminally stupid individuals like you who invent fictitious placings for our team to make themselves feel better then we deserve all the mediocrity we get. You are an utter moron.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"I couldn't care less Lynn, as long as there are terminally stupid individuals like you who invent fictitious placings for our team to make themselves feel better then we deserve all the mediocrity we get. You are an utter moron.'"
=#FF0000The amount of personal abuse from you today is unacceptable so you can have a week off.
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| Quote ="DC W1"Once again a half decent thread de-railed by a couple of school kids and their petty arguements. PM each other and leave us to get on with the thread.
Getting back to the thread, I would like to think the board will sit down this week and discuss honestly how the season has gone and learn from it.
Firstly I don't want to see all the hype we had last season about what is happening and what we are going to do. Big press releases and lauches etc have left us looking stupid this season. That said I can't see us shifting as many season passes so the hype will have to be there to get cash out of wallets.
I am firmly in the Agar out camp, but feel that he has taken us a step forward from last season, but an ambitious board would imo want to be taking three or four steps forward. This season I don't buy the injuries as an excuse. Leeds, Saints, Giants have all had serious injury concerns at times yet have fought through that adversity and finished above us.
For me we have thrown all our eggs in the one basket, big forwards and two veteran half backs who we do well to get on the park. Until we get a back up half back partnership ( Not Washy and A N Other) we will never be anything more than also rans. I appreciate thats easier said than done, but we now have Webster and Long to coach half backs. As I understand it Longy was brought in to help produce a new SH. Well we are half way through his contract and no sign of a new half back anywhere at the club.
I worry about next year as we seem to be spending time re recruiting players who have taken us no where this season. They are also the same players who have failed to produce a decent 80 minute performance since probably Sts away. They are also the same players who failed to get up for the games in Wales, Scotland, West Yorkshire...... Ok a further off season together might help, but it will also help the clubs who are already way ahead of us so this off season will have to be exceptional if we are to even stand still.
I await the results but can't see the woods for the trees at this moment in time.'"
Very good post. We have had an average number of injuries this season at worst. Long/Horne being out together has hurt us, but let's compare to St Helens who have Pryce/Eastmond out in the play-offs, bring in Wilkin and Moore and smash Warrington. The quality of Horne now is becoming questionable, and Long is fine, even at 34, but we've not enough players able to work on his wavelength. I don't know, but can't imagine this is his fault as he seems a reasonable communicator. Add to that the lack of depth and you can see why we are where we are. Washbrook, bless him, is a great trier, but will never be a creative halfback. Our lack of quality in the three quarters was my main concern, but if we move Berro to the centres and with Sharp coming in, the main focus has to be a half, a hooker and a prop. Doubt we'll be able to afford 3 decent quality players though.
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| It's hard to be optimistic about 2011 as it stands with only Sharp confirmed as coming in and Cusack and Hall out along with uncertainties over Tansey, Calderwood and Dowes.
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| It's not the playing roster that is the problem, it's the coach. I'll bet that any other coach in the top 8 (and most out of it) would have got more out of this group of players than agar has.
We are the most boring, one dimensional, lacking in ideas team in superleague. You can change players all you want, the fundamental problem is still there.
Oh, and we finished 7th in this year's SL competition
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's not the playing roster that is the problem, it's the coach. I'll bet that any other coach in the top 8 (and most out of it) would have got more out of this group of players than agar has.
We are the most boring, one dimensional, lacking in ideas team in superleague. You can change players all you want, the fundamental problem is still there.
Oh, and we finished 7th in this year's SL competition'"
7th ,11th,...does it make any difference in the final analysis,we still won nowt.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I really respect your opinions, Paul, but do you think that Horne (way off the pace)/Long (34) is the HB partnership to take us to silverware when we're up against Burrow/McGuire, Monaghan/Briers, Pryce/Eastmond? We have no specialist FB at the club now (Tansey was arguable a utility anyway and another ball-handler lost). Don't deny that our pack is more than adequate at this level, very pleased with it subject to getting another prop, but think we'll struggle again in the backs next year unless some decent signings are forthcoming.'"
You was dying to write Dobson/Green in that post
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"You was dying to write Dobson/Green in that post'"
Not really. What proportion of British RL supporters have heard of him?
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| Quote ="Scott_HKR"You was dying to write Dobson/Green in that post'"
Is he that little bald geordie?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Is he that little bald geordie?'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Is he that little bald geordie?'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Is he that little bald geordie?'"
Your best post ever.
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