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| Quote ="easthull4"i THINKYOU ARE TALKING OUT OF YOUR RING OF FIRE YOU OBVIUOSLY HAVENT A CLUE ABOUT RUGBY LEAGUE'"
But i can spell, and dont SHOUT !!!, shouldnt you be at school son.
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| Quote ="Standee"Ask yourself this, you are a fan of another SL club that has aspirations to regularly make the top 4, your club announces the signing of Radford from Hull FC, are you [igenuinely[/i happy about it?'"
Radford is the type of player that very few fans would get excited about signing, not because of who he is, but because of his style of play. When people think of what attributes a good second row forward need, most will think of speed, power and the ability to offload under pressure. Teams would become very predictable if this were how all coaches perceived the ideal second row to be.
Radford is a completely different type of second row to someone like Jon Wilkin, who people will no doubt compare him to. Radders has his flaws, and lacks speed, but he is one of the best defensive forwards in the league and it constantly takes gang tackles from the opposition defence to stop his runs. Rather than been explosive, he grinds teams down.
Wilkin or another player of his mould could have a very mediocre game, but have one burst of pace and score a try and people would leave the ground saying how brilliant he was. A Radford style player could do everything right in a game that was expected of them and take 18 hit ups off load 6 times and make 30 tackles, and a lot of people would still say that it was a poor performance.
Radders may not catch the eye, but is still far more than an average second row imo, although I would agree he may not be everyone’s cup of tea as a captain.
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| Quote ="Johnny Cash"But i can spell, and dont SHOUT !!!, shouldnt you be at school son.'"
But you don't know how to end a question.
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| Quote ="chico's nose"A Radford style player could do everything right in a game that was expected of them and take 18 hit ups off load 6 times and make 30 tackles, and a lot of people would still say that it was a poor performance.'"
He'd be fine if that is what he did week-in, week-out. He doesn't though. He continually comes up with costly errors in both attack and defence, whether it's forcing a stupid offload or giving away a needless penalty. Plus he tendency to fight for every extra yard, at the expense of a quick play, is extremely annoying and detrimental to the team. When you than factor in his lack of pace and lack of tackle-busting ability, he doesn't look like the sort of player a team aiming for silverware should have.
He's been good in the past, often very good, but he's finished now, based on the evidence of the last couple of years.
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| Quote ="Standee"Ask yourself this, you are a fan of another SL club that has aspirations to regularly make the top 4, your club announces the signing of Radford from Hull FC, are you [igenuinely[/i happy about it?'"
With all due respect,
Ryan Bailey plays for the SL champions, would you swap him for Radford?
The problem is not with Radford as a player, its Hulls squad as an entity. We have too many workhorses (of which Radford is an exceptional example of).
doesn't make him a bad player.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"He'd be fine if that is what he did week-in, week-out. He doesn't though. He continually comes up with costly errors in both attack and defence, whether it's forcing a stupid offload or giving away a needless penalty. Plus he tendency to fight for every extra yard, at the expense of a quick play, is extremely annoying and detrimental to the team. When you than factor in his lack of pace and lack of tackle-busting ability, he doesn't look like the sort of player a team aiming for silverware should have.
=redSounds like a summary of Gareth Hock
He's been good in the past, often very good, but he's finished now, based on the evidence of the last couple of years.'"
Thats a bold statement considering the last couple of years the team has had
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"Sounds like a summary of Gareth Hock'"
Apart from the pace and tackle-busting ability. And I don't rate Hock either. He can be very effective, but his utter stupidity means he's far too inconsistent.
Quote ="me 'n' our kid"Thats a bold statement considering the last couple of years the team has had'"
Yeah, but it's one I'll stick by until there's evidence to the contrary. I'd love for him to have a stormer this year, but I really can't see it happening.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"He'd be fine if that is what he did week-in, week-out. He doesn't though. He continually comes up with costly errors in both attack and defence, whether it's forcing a stupid offload or giving away a needless penalty. Plus he tendency to fight for every extra yard, at the expense of a quick play, is extremely annoying and detrimental to the team. When you than factor in his lack of pace and lack of tackle-busting ability, he doesn't look like the sort of player a team aiming for silverware should have.
He's been good in the past, often very good, but he's finished now, based on the evidence of the last couple of years.'"
Well said that man. I agree 100% with everything you say.
I bet he wouldn't get in the starting lineup of many other SL teams these days, and that says it all.
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| I think he would. a while back on the leeds fans they were saying they would have him. but he does make his mistakes. especially the warrington game
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| FFS
Just like last season when we gave Dowes a new deal before the season started, we give another one of the "deadwood" players a new deal.. Hes a decent tackler but thats about it
Terrible signing
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"And I don't rate Hock either. He can be very effective, but his utter stupidity means he's far too inconsistent.'"
A bloke I know has met him on a few occasions and genuinely reckons he's bordering on Neanderthal status.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"He'd be fine if that is what he did week-in, week-out. He doesn't though. He continually comes up with costly errors in both attack and defence, whether it's forcing a stupid offload or giving away a needless penalty. Plus he tendency to fight for every extra yard, at the expense of a quick play, is extremely annoying and detrimental to the team. When you than factor in his lack of pace and lack of tackle-busting ability, he doesn't look like the sort of player a team aiming for silverware should have.
He's been good in the past, often very good, but he's finished now, based on the evidence of the last couple of years.'"
The first bit highlighted could be said for most of the team.
Noitice I didn't highlight the word "continually" as it is not needed in any description of Radfords shortcomings as a player, regardless of peoples opinions of him. He does not "continually " knock on or "continually" miss tackles or "continually" attempt stupid off loads.
The second bit highlighted had me peeing myself with laughter. Are you really slagging of a player because of his determination to make as many yards as possible?
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| Quote ="Johnny Cash"Another blunder by the club, like i said yesterday the club are carrying deadwood, and people blamed Sharpy. So they offer Radders another year, so its going to be another embarrassing season for us again, theres no one left worth signing we will have to make do, whilst other clubs are releasing news of decent signings we extend the contract of a bloke who cant catch a ball, cannot lead a team , the only thing he is talented at is battering people in the ring.'" ..hope you're not gonna be sat any where near me .......you moaning prat.nobody else wanted crocker then?
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| Quote ="chico's nose"The first bit highlighted could be said for most of the team.
Noitice I didn't highlight the word "continually" as it is not needed in any description of Radfords shortcomings as a player, regardless of peoples opinions of him. He does not "continually " knock on or "continually" miss tackles or "continually" attempt stupid off loads.'"
That's exactly the problem; with him it is continuous. If it one or two mistakes like that a season, there wouldn't be a problem. It happens much more frequently than that.
Quote ="chico's nose"The second bit highlighted had me peeing myself with laughter. Are you really slagging of a player because of his determination to make as many yards as possible?'"
Yep. It's unnecessary and, in the long run, costs the team yardage.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"FFS
Just like last season when we gave Dowes a new deal before the season started, we give another one of the "deadwood" players a new deal.. Hes a decent tackler but thats about it
Terrible signing'"
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"That's exactly the problem; with him it is continuous. If it one or two mistakes like that a season, there wouldn't be a problem. It happens much more frequently than that.'"
I think a visit to the land of reality is in order pal
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| its great to see you all coming out in support of the club captain
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"I think a visit to the land of reality is in order pal
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Let me know when you get there.
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| Quote ="willowred"its great to see you all coming out in support of the club captain
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It really is a joke isnt it!!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"It really is a joke isnt it!!'"
No, people are entitled to their opinions, why support a decision that you don't agree with just to keep a "positive spin" on things.
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| Quote ="Standee"No, people are entitled to their opinions, why support a decision that you don't agree with just to keep a "positive spin" on things.'"
Yes they are allowed their opinions, you know me, i always advocate that on here. However some fans opinions of Radford i happen to have the opinion are a joke!!
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"Let me know when you get there.'"
I did have to double check having read your drivvel
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| im writing to the club to let them know how we all feel about Radford its getting beyond a joke, i will try to call sportstalk tonight aswell for us all.
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