Some people are going to moan about everything that happens and is said in the off season.

Last season has gone, we have recruited well and Radford has proven he can win big games (I don't buy the style thing, as we played that style in 2016/17, but not many complained).

Personally I'd have changed cocah, but we have Radford, so how about we try and look at the many positves about our club and once the season starts then we can focus on the negatives (hopefully they wont be many).

I'm looking forward to next season, certainly more than the I did for the one just gone, I feel we have a team who should challege, if we don't then Radford will be gone.

That style of play was perfect with Watts and a dominant front row. We need to have our edge players like Mau Jones Savelio and Griffin running wide, another prop with aggression balances the team for me.

I totally agree with the rest of your post, a really good looking squad assembled by Radders and funded by AP, some exciting backs with Jake Mahe Ratu, and a promising hooker to spell Houghton, we will be up there next season, and I can’t wait.

It is Ma'u.

It is a very good squad assembled, I'd be very disappointed if we're not up there challenging come the business end of the season.

Best recruitment in the league by far imo, only Wigan's comes anywhere near.

Definitely a make or break season for Radford what with the quality of player at his disposal.

Looking back at 2016 we looked so much better with Pritchard on the edges and a fairly quick ptb, he just became used in effect as another prop it we looked so much worse for that.

Hopefully with Jones and Ma'u (upgrades to both Sika & Mini) we will use them on the edges and with an improvement in the speed we ptb and distribution from dummy half we can utilise the ability and size we have and really be a threat along with the wing/centre combinations we have available.

This should allow for us not to rely so heavily on the forwards to gain metres as we just end up flogging them to death in games and once they start running out of steam our game plan is FUBAR.

We were so close in 2016 the way we played early in that season and were devastating, with the players in the 2020 squad it is an improvement on the 2016 but we have to use the edges properly and not just as extra forwards.

M’wah

We cant utilise our edge runners, as our 6 is playing on the right side, to compensate for Shaul's inability as a pivot.
Normally , the 6 plays left edge, 7 plays central, then the FB joins line to play on right edge. So the left edge backrower,wont get decent service, as there is no left pivot.

I did, we played a lot of gash rugby then 2, we just got away with it more, with better players, a younger manu, mini and ellis, but we at least played with an intensity and a look of togetherness, that's gone and our tactics have been well and truly sussed

I didn't want this thread to drop off the first page

Dont worry its almost like Radfords gone Director Of Rugby now Purthills come in - hes slowly going imo

in your dreams maybe, he aint going anywhere, imo

What utter, unsubstantiated nonsense.

How about we let this thread go (for now) get behind Lee, the new coaching staff and players?

There may be time for this thread to come back, but now is now the time.

We have had two disappointing seasons (Could have been worst), but we have addressed the squad (Best squad since we started SL IMO) and the coaching staff (With more to come), so let’s give Lee and the team some backing rather than focussing on the negatives of last season.

You must be so so desperate for your negitivity fix in the off season

I kinda posted in jest.
I am looking forward to the new season that's for sure.

We have some amazing signings. AMAZING.

A lot better than the shoite last year.

However if the average fan thinks this means we will win the lot then they are deluded. Players find it hard to paper over poor coaching cracks.

If all we needed was great players then why have a head coach or any coaching at all ????? Think about it

I have supported Cleveland Browns for 30 years, thick and mostly thin. Look at their roster for this NFL season. Amazing talent. And yet ?

The good news is they are looking at firing the coach mid way in his first season as iot's clear he's not top notch, good but not elite !

So ...YES I am always hopeful and positive re HULL FC

so, comparing the Browns, who have won little, to Hull FC who have achieved quite a lot?

The definition of an anachronyism.

I put my trust with the man who has his hand in his pocket. Do I like Lee, no, do I think he is a SL coach, no. BUT he is what we have. If I won the Euro, would he be anywhere near the club, NO, nor would Last, Ellis, Yeaman et al.

BUT I remember the days of not knowing if we would exist.

A toe in the past is akin to a foot in the grave.

LR is like an itch, you can't get rid, but the more you itch goes one of two ways, keep itching and it grows, ignore it and it might just go away.

Pedantry trap!



Like outmoded nepotism?

https://www.hullfc.com/news/2019-10-15- ... inces-quay Think we might see Radfords contract exteneded tonight. The last line from the above link is 'There may also be a little bit of big news to be revealed at the event too…' Unless they are are announcing Cator/another backroom coach but that seems a bit anti climactic

https://www.hullfc.com/news/2019-10-15- ... inces-quay Think we might see Radfords contract exteneded tonight. The last line from the above link is 'There may also be a little bit of big news to be revealed at the event too…' Unless they are are announcing Cator/another backroom coach but that seems a bit anti climactic

You can't exrend a contract that doesn't exist?

Griffin
“Having seen his side fall away at the backend of the 2019 season, missing out on a play-off place on the last day, Griffin feels FC lacked the mindset of a big club and that’s something they can’t afford not to have in 2020, particularly with the quality of the squad“

Quite alarming

Not really, something we notice when we attend games. Top sides are ruthless, consistent. We seem to get above our station if we win a few games on the trot, or we think we can win a game by playing a solid 20 minutes

Only FC fans and possibly some players see them as a big club. The article about Griffin and his opinion really made me chuckle. I know players are expected to bull up their team in these circumstances but that was really going over the top. It’s that attitude that results in everyone having false expectations.

Sorry I forgot to mention the sycophants at HDM

Isn't it the same with all teams, every year we hear things from Rovers aboutl about how well you will do and every year its pretty much the same end result.

The media hype from Rovers have massively been over the top in the off season,. Although I cant blame them, the best part of the year for Rovers fans is October to January.

I agree all teams’ players and fans do it. However to claim the pressure on the players at FC is greater than at any other club is clearly delusional. I suppose seeing things like that in the media encourages FC fans to think the same way.

I notice that although your put your point of view quite reasonably you cannot resist the need to get that dig in at the end that has nothing to do with my original post. I hope including the last sentence made you feel better.

Why is one players opinion delusional?

“I feel like it’s definitely the most [size=150I’ve seen[/size in terms of external pressure."