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| Quote ="Structured"Don't shoot the messenger but it's being reported by a couple of posters on the HKR board that you have made Kris Welham an offer to sign. It was earlier said he was considering a move to Salford so I presume considering locations Hull FC would be his preferred destination providing the offer is similar to theirs. Bradford apparently were also interested but staying in Super League was obviously his preference.'"
I would've thought you'd be more bothered about more young lads leaving your club than matters at Hull FC?
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| Quote ="hull2524"great business for us,we could have sold him for £300,000 and some wouldn't be happy, let the doom mongers keep whinging away,when we start well they will soon scury under they rocks'"
Most fans seem to think this is a good move for the club including myself.
Joe lost his way when Pryce hit the scene.
Just hope we can bring in a quality strike centre
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I would've thought you'd be more bothered about more young lads leaving your club than matters at Hull FC?'"
When you've been sold a line on Sunday afternoon games and realise you've only got 5 or 6 homegrown players left, [iof course [/iKris Welham is your top priority. Warm weather training camp in the USA, though.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I love the way mrs B and others slurp up the gash served to them, 150k for Westerman...do me a favour!
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So you're suggesting both Hull and Warrington concocted a figure of £150K?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Are you saying the fee wasn't £150,000?'"
I do believe that is what I have said, I don't care, I just don't beleive anything coming out from the club at the moment, the spin, lies and deceit gives me not a single iota of confidence in anything they say. As I said, telling us it's £XXXX averts away from the truth not just of the fee but the situation as a whole. i clearly said this before, If you and others want to beleive the £150k fee is accurate that's up to you, i don't. A press release, what's said by X, Y and z won't convince me.
As far as I'm concerned the intention was to let Westerman go, which is fine, that's how things are, players come and go and coaches/owners change their minds on such matters, but the bull coming out of the club and it being a last minute deal is garbage in my honest opinion.
and if as many forummers have said it's too late to sign someone of quality to fill the void of his salary it just doesn't add up.
Indeed if we were in for another player for the backline, again, why are we keeping Yeaman?
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Quote ="Stanley Unwin"So you're suggesting both Hull and Warrington concocted a figure of £150K?'"
warringtonwolves.com/westerman-h ... years-8319
"The Wolves have paid a transfer fee of £150,000 to Hull to release Westerman from his contract."
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"The Wolves have paid a transfer fee of £150,000 to Hull to release Westerman from his contract."
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I do believe that is what I have said, I don't care, I just don't beleive anything coming out from the club at the moment, the spin, lies and deceit gives me not a single iota of confidence in anything they say. As I said, telling us it's £XXXX averts away from the truth not just of the fee but the situation as a whole. i clearly said this before, If you and others want to beleive the £150k fee is accurate that's up to you, i don't. [uA press release, what's said by X, Y and z won't convince me[/u.
As far as I'm concerned the intention was to let Westerman go, which is fine, that's how things are, players come and go and coaches/owners change their minds on such matters, but the bull coming out of the club and it being a last minute deal is garbage in my honest opinion.
and if as many forummers have said it's too late to sign someone of quality to fill the void of his salary it just doesn't add up.
Indeed if we were in for another player for the backline, again, why are we keeping Yeaman?'"
Why would it be in Warrington's official press release?
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| Not one to put rumours, but I've heard Carney is done and will be announced soon.
No idea how we are getting him under the quota.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"warringtonwolves.com/westerman-hardwired-for-next-3-years-8319
"The Wolves have paid a transfer fee of £150,000 to Hull to release Westerman from his contract."'"
Presumably bumpy thinks Warrington are fibbing too
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Presumably bumpy thinks Warrington are fibbing too
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I do believe that is what I have said, I don't care, I just don't beleive anything coming out from the club at the moment, the spin, lies and deceit gives me not a single iota of confidence in anything they say. As I said, telling us it's £XXXX averts away from the truth not just of the fee but the situation as a whole. i clearly said this before, If you and others want to beleive the £150k fee is accurate that's up to you, i don't. A press release, what's said by X, Y and z won't convince me.'"
oh dear.
Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"As far as I'm concerned the intention was to let Westerman go, which is fine, that's how things are, players come and go and coaches/owners change their minds on such matters, but the bull coming out of the club and it being a last minute deal is garbage in my honest opinion.
and if as many forummers have said it's too late to sign someone of quality to fill the void of his salary it just doesn't add up.'"
I'm not sure why it's so difficult to believe. Player had a year left on his contract and wasn't intending to stay beyond that, club take opportunity to get a fee for a player that'll leave for free in a year in a position we're well stocked in. If you don't believe that's the truth, offer us another version - what do you think really happened?
Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Indeed if we were in for another player for the backline, again, why are we keeping Yeaman?'"
Unless it's a winger, of course. I'd imagine with Logan, Fonua, Yeaman and Tuimavave able to play centre, we'd be looking at another winger, which is a position we're pretty weak in as it stands.
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| Plenty of rumour on Carney this afternoon. That would mix things up a bit.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"When you've been sold a line on Sunday afternoon games and realise you've only got 5 or 6 homegrown players left, [iof course [/iKris Welham is your top priority.
Warm weather training camp in the USA, though.
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TBH, I'm just glad AP has taken over the mantle of S.L's selling club.
Anyway shouldn't you be following AP's on his door knocking rounds and bullying a few more to buy passes. Let them follow your own example......
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| Quote ="Structured"TBH, I'm just glad AP has taken over the mantle of S.L's selling club.
Anyway shouldn't you be following AP's on his door knocking rounds and bullying a few more to buy passes. Let them follow your own example......
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You still moaning about bullying? Thought you'd laid that to rest with your previous incarnation(s)
32 becomes 34, then. Oh dear..
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| Don't care how good he is. It would be stupid getting rid of a player with alleged poor professionalism and replacing them with....whatever you want to class Carney as.
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| here's my two penneth on it for what its worth.
£290,000ish for two player over which there have been big question marks concerning their integrity and off field behaviour is in itself good business and probabaly in the long term a bonus in the camp.
I think we will definitely miss Lineham but Westerman won't be missed at all, for all the reasons outlined above, he's had a pretty ineffective season and hadn't even started contract talks when he announced that he wanted away and that meant that it was very, very likely that he would be off anyway come 2017; with no recompense for us at all.
Leeds saw the light and refused to pay up but Warrington were more naive and to get £150,000 for Joe is without doubt the 'killing' of the season so far and great business for the Club, but for the fans the acid test of Pearson's situation and ambition is what he does next.
Will those two come back to bite us? For me Lineham definitely will he'll score a few in the corner and no mistake but I doubt very much Westerman will. If we bring a top quality outside back in then for me we will be in a better position, balance wise, than we were before Westy went! No new signing and we are a side selling to survive, which sometimes has to happen, but invariably points to a team in decline. However with what is coming in already next year using Westermans cap space to bring a strike winger in would I think show a team jettisoning the problem areas and addressing the weaknesses. I think a lot of fans will be watching Adams next move very closely as Motu Tony said this morning, we now have a bit of cap space available but what will we do with it.....if anything?
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| Good deal .. If we can use the £ to bring in a quality back , Preferably a centre .
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Wink or no, you realise how daft that statement is given FC Live, yes?
I've seen every game Westerman has played for this club.
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That report is from sept1 lots gone on since then.
Why would Wigan want to release Sarginson? no sense in that
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That report is from sept1 lots gone on since then.
Why would Wigan want to release Sarginson? no sense in that
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| Quote ="Kosh"Wink or no, you realise how daft that statement is given FC Live, yes?
I've seen every game Westerman has played for this club.'"
Wrong.
Sorry just though I'd copy your response when arguing a point.
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| Quote ="bonaire"That report is from sept1 lots gone on since then.
Why would Wigan want to release Sarginson? no sense in that'"
We're sharing rumours. I think I read Sarginson is OOC, maybe they want to promote internally? On Carney he's linked with several clubs, NRL, union and staying put.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"We're sharing rumours. I think I read Sarginson is OOC, maybe they want to promote internally? On Carney he's linked with several clubs, NRL, union and staying put.'"
If we are seriously looking at an outside back from Wigan its more likely to be Josh Charnley
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| Quote ="Kosh"Wink or no, you realise how daft that statement is given FC Live, yes?
I've seen every game Westerman has played for this club.'"
Actually you are wrong as after a bit of research I found that Hull FC LIVE started in 2012, so unless you saw every game that he played in 2011, you haven't seen all the games he hasn't played.
Anyway Carney*for Westerman looks good business to me.
Shaul
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Naughton/Talanoa/Lancaster
Looks much better than I thought.
*If true
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