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| Quote ="chesterwednesday"Lopini/Mickey Paea , Blake Green , Michael Dobson , Scott Dureau ?'"
What about them?
All of the above were NRL signings/cast offs weren't they? Rather than jnr signings direct from the Toyota cup, to which you implied (or as I read it at least). Con Mika's career highlights mainly came from jnr appearances with the odd NRL appearance. Roopy gave him great raps and said he'd rip up ESL - he hasn't. From what I've seen (so far) Jordan Cox would certainly have done no worse than Con Mika.
My point is, British clubs would do better to look and invest in British youngsters rather than Aussie counterparts'.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Thats because the Toyota cup isn't the 2nd grade comp, its the u20's.'"
Yep, no excuse.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"Altho' I don't see what relevance your post has to mine, I do agree with what you're saying. I was responding to the notion that players in the 2nd grade comp, would run riot in ESL. It's like the same notion that Aussie's have to be better than their British equivalents. There will be some great prospects in Britain that could run riot in the SL - if given the chance at the right club/setup.
Clubs like Wigan/Leeds/Saints etc lead the way at the moment on junior development. Seeing as our youth setups appear to be merging somewhat, let's hope both our teams have lurds of lowculs in them in the years to come.'"
Fair enough should have put it a little better.
The point is simple Just because they may have played in the NRL isn't a guarantee that they'll perform well in the ESL and considering the increase in the salary cap in Australia can't see any big name players actually making the switch from the NRL to ESL,
Thats why I'd be looking at the Toyota cup to try and find some talented young players wanting to make a name for themselves
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| Quote ="WormInHand"It's hard for them to contemplate, isn't it? Pearson, Gentle and McRae have a completely different mindset regarding antipodeans to Hudge and co.'"
Behave.
AP/McRae looked that way for your new super coach don't forget.
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| so Wade has gone, good riddance IMO and any excuse he offers up is not good enough to warrant walking out after such a short spell,
he doesnt like the weather ...tough sghite mate, the whole world knows it rains here.
his missus is back home and misses him.. ferk me , what happened did he fly off and not tell her about it or something??
any player worth his salt would have finished the season like big sam is doing!! its a sign of a short backbone in my opinion and nothing he says will make it any different, he has come here took big wages and cleared off for no good reason and thats all there is to it, hope his career implodes as what comes around goes around
He has basically mugged off the club and fans end off!
However you cant make an omelette without breaking eggs, Turner , Manu, Wade , Omeley they can oll sling their hook if they dont want to play for FC as no players are bigger than the club!!!!!
Thank god we have PG, Bomber and AP at the helm now whom i am sure will guide us back to glory despite the spineless money grabbers and has beens leaving us
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"What about them?
All of the above were NRL signings/cast offs weren't they? Rather than jnr signings direct from the Toyota cup, to which you implied (or as I read it at least). Con Mika's career highlights mainly came from jnr appearances with the odd NRL appearance. Roopy gave him great raps and said he'd rip up ESL - he hasn't. From what I've seen (so far) Jordan Cox would certainly have done no worse than Con Mika.
My point is, British clubs would do better to look and invest in British youngsters rather than Aussie counterparts'.'"
Our game will soon follow the Nrl in losing the impact player, the Paea's, Mika and numerous others who struggle with long minutes will soon be a thing of the past. Especially with the Nrl looking to reduce the number of subs to 8.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Our game will soon follow the Nrl in losing the impact player, the Paea's, Mika and numerous others who struggle with long minutes will soon be a thing of the past. Especially with the Nrl looking to reduce the number of =#FF0000subs to 8.'"
Is that so? Yeh, that would definitely change a lot of things.
Altho' I must add, Con Mika has actually played the entire game probably more often than not for us.
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| Quote ="jacko1"Fair enough should have put it a little better.
The point is simple Just because they may have played in the NRL isn't a guarantee that they'll perform well in the ESL and considering the increase in the salary cap in Australia can't see any big name players actually making the switch from the NRL to ESL,
Thats why I'd be looking at the Toyota cup to try and find some talented young players wanting to make a name for themselves'"
I think we're agreeing, albeit from different angles.
It's fine to look @ young uns from the Toyota cup, but I'd only support that option if your own club's jnr setup is in order. Not just trying to bypass the bit where the clubs should be tasked with developing their own players.
Now let's stop derailing a perfectly [igood[/i trolling thread.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"Is that so? Yeh, that would definitely change a lot of things.
Altho' I must add, Con Mika has actually played the entire game probably more often than not for us.'"
So their saying, trying to make the game a spectacle again and probably trying to stop alot of Caucasians playing afl.
I know, but hes only got 40 mins in him.
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| Quote ="voodooroo"so Wade has gone, good riddance IMO and any excuse he offers up is not good enough to warrant walking out after such a short spell,
he doesnt like the weather ...tough sghite mate, the whole world knows it rains here.
his missus is back home and misses him.. ferk me , what happened did he fly off and not tell her about it or something??
any player worth his salt would have finished the season like big sam is doing!! its a sign of a short backbone in my opinion and nothing he says will make it any different, he has come here took big wages and cleared off for no good reason and thats all there is to it, hope his career implodes as what comes around goes around
He has basically mugged off the club and fans end off!
However you cant make an omelette without breaking eggs, Turner , Manu, Wade , Omeley they can oll sling their hook if they dont want to play for FC as no players are bigger than the club!!!!!
Thank god we have PG, Bomber and AP at the helm now whom i am sure will guide us back to glory despite the spineless money grabbers and has beens leaving us'"
Come on tell us straight what do you really mean
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| Quote ="voodooroo"so Wade has gone, good riddance IMO and any excuse he offers up is not good enough to warrant walking out after such a short spell,
he doesnt like the weather ...tough sghite mate, the whole world knows it rains here.
his missus is back home and misses him.. ferk me , what happened did he fly off and not tell her about it or something??
any player worth his salt would have finished the season like big sam is doing!! its a sign of a short backbone in my opinion and nothing he says will make it any different, he has come here took big wages and cleared off for no good reason and thats all there is to it, hope his career implodes as what comes around goes around
He has basically mugged off the club and fans end off!
However you cant make an omelette without breaking eggs, Turner , Manu, Wade , Omeley they can oll sling their hook if they dont want to play for FC as no players are bigger than the club!!!!!
Thank god we have PG, Bomber and AP at the helm now whom i am sure will guide us back to glory despite the spineless money grabbers and has beens leaving us'"
Agree with a lot of that although in Ogres case it's the club telling him they don't want him anymore
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| Quote ="Dave K."Regarding Turner, he wants to move closer to his family, so can't blame him for that, plus I think everyone is getting a bit carried away with Turner, he played has played well against the likes of Cas and Rovers, but it still to perform against one of the top sides.'"
Played well against saints away too
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| Quote ="Dave K."Regarding Turner, he wants to move closer to his family, so can't blame him for that, plus I think everyone is getting a bit carried away with Turner, he played has played well against the likes of Cas and Rovers, but it still to perform against one of the top sides.'"
I guess we could say the same about Lynch, McKinnon, Seymour, Martin, Aspinwall, Sharp, etc…
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| Quote ="Isaiah"I guess we could say the same about =#0000FFLynch, McKinnon, Seymour, Martin, Aspinwall, Sharp, etc…'"
Should not be in that sentence at all, there really isn't a case you can make to claim so.
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| Quote ="Whiting"Played well against saints away too'"
Scored a good try, did ok in the rest of the game.
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| Quote ="Isaiah"I guess we could say the same about Lynch, McKinnon, Seymour, Martin, Aspinwall, Sharp, etc…'"
The bit about lynch is bollax.
I agree with rest, how many of them would you offer a three year deal or be that bothered about losing?
Turner has done well against the weaker sides, but is getting far too much hype IMO.
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| Quote ="Dave K."The bit about lynch is bollax.
I agree with rest, how many of them would you offer a three year deal or be that bothered about losing?
Turner has done well against the weaker sides, but is getting far too much hype IMO.'"
Turner did well at saints and was pretty decent defensively at hudds away. HE took a knock early on against shudds at home (when we were actually winning) and then sat out the wigan game. THink you're being a bit harsh TBH. His defence has improved massively this season and he is strong and has pace to burn. Very disappointed we are losing him
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Turner did well at saints and was pretty decent defensively at hudds away. HE took a knock early on against shudds at home (when we were actually winning) and then sat out the wigan game. THink you're being a bit harsh TBH. His defence has improved massively this season and he is strong and has pace to burn. Very disappointed we are losing him'"
If we're building a young mainly British team then there is no doubt Turner is a big loss. He beat then outstripped the England centre at Saints, totally stood up a winger at Cas and scored a hat trick against an ETS centre on Good Friday. It is surprising that for the fist time in ages we actually have a centre who has length of the field pace and a not too shabby ball playing ability his winger yet this hasn't really been recognised by some fans. He has improved massively in the last 12 months which makes it all the more disappointing that he seems likely to take that improvement elsewhere.
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| Think there's an update on Turner in tomorrow's HDM? Doubt we'll officially release info on him going elsewhere at this point though.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"If we're building a young mainly British team then there is no doubt Turner is a big loss. He beat then outstripped the England centre at Saints, totally stood up a winger at Cas and scored a hat trick against an ETS centre on Good Friday. It is surprising that for the fist time in ages we actually have a centre who has length of the field pace and a not too shabby ball playing ability his winger yet this hasn't really been recognised by some fans. He has improved massively in the last 12 months which makes it all the more disappointing that he seems likely to take that improvement elsewhere.'"
The myopia of a chunk of our fan base is no real surprise
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Think there's an update on Turner in tomorrow's HDM? Doubt we'll officially release info on him going elsewhere at this point though.'"
He's gone. saints stealing our 2 main (only) strike players this season
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"Behave.
AP/McRae looked that way for your new super coach don't forget.'"
If our English coach was anything to go by, then they've obviously made the right decision.
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| Quote ="chesterwednesday"1 (ONE) Trophy in 20 years makes you MUCH more successful ?
Two players gone and three more following shortly, all because of one players massive wages.
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talking about recent success its not too difficult to be superior to you lot,sheffield eagles will confirm that
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"Is that so? Yeh, that would definitely change a lot of things.
Altho' I must add, Con Mika has actually played the entire game probably more often than not for us.'"
possibly him being on the pitch for the entire game has contributed to your capitulation at the end of a lot of games
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