I'm coming to the conclusion that, if we win, either Shaul or Crooks will win Lance Todd. Would go with the same squad as the majority, Horne and Green to miss out. Confident that we have the forward muscle to lay the platform for Miller, Holdsworth, Houghton and Heremaia, and then subsequently our backs can do the damage needed. Can't flipping wait!

Big hit on him early on should set the tone then!

Big hit on rat boy or Lockers to make sure they know we're up for it will do me..

Lockers has a knack of dropping ball second or third tackle and getting penalties for his side so we need to watch ourselves.

^ this, he did this very well at the KC gaining penalties that swung the game in wigans favour late on

Of course you were told this along with the game plan and the advanced tactical substitutions

Does anyone remember a young 17 year old playing for Wigan in the 1985 Classic. he played v FC and FC had some of the greatest names in RL at the time. How did he get on in the game and how inexperienced was he ?

Shaul is 21 Edwards was 17

it's a big dilemma - Horne is not a fullback but Shaul is, so my preference would be to put Horne at 7 not 1.

Miller misses out for me - Horne was turning games before he got injured and Miller is still finding his feet. Horne is the better player of the two - Miller is still learning his trade. Let's have someone who knows where his feet are and has played in Challenge Cup finals before. We need experience for this occasion. If McDonnell was fit he would have been picked instead of Shaul (who has done nothing wrong) because of his experience in that position and the fact he's a better player.

I wouldn't like to have to make the choice and I'd still be glad to have Miller at 7 and Shaul at 1.

TBH, if this game was not at Wembley then playing Horne in place of Miller or Shaul would not be too much of a problem. But this Wembley, this pitch finds out any player that isn't 100%, and after three months he can't be that, no amount of training brings you to the level of match fitness that this game and this pitch requires. But that's just my opinion, and I think Shaulnand Miller have earned their right to be there

Heavy rain now forecast all day. We need players with good ball control.

Sorry, he was told Wednesday.
Lineham didn't go down with the team, the lad is so down, feel for the kid.

Quote ="Bal"Heavy rain now forecast all day. We need players with good ball control.'" Just watched the live forecast on BBC news and it could be torrential at times, heavy rain starts from 11pm tonight and does not stop till well after the game Shaul not been tested under the high ball in super league will this favour selection of Horne at FB? Dissapointed that the weather now looks like it could be so bad, could be a poor spectacle with team making least mistakes winning, (won't give a flying one if we win). Another "Water Splash" final? www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2634549

Quote ="Bal"Heavy rain now forecast all day. We need players with good ball control.'" Just watched the live forecast on BBC news and it could be torrential at times, heavy rain starts from 11pm tonight and does not stop till well after the game Shaul not been tested under the high ball in super league will this favour selection of Horne at FB? Dissapointed that the weather now looks like it could be so bad, could be a poor spectacle with team making least mistakes winning, (won't give a flying one if we win). Another "Water Splash" final? www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2634549

Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"Just watched the live forecast on BBC news and it could be torrential at times, heavy rain starts from 11pm tonight and does not stop till well after the game Shaul not been tested under the high ball in super league will this favour selection of Horne at FB? Dissapointed that the weather now looks like it could be so bad, could be a poor spectacle with team making least mistakes winning, (won't give a flying one if we win). Another "Water Splash" final? www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2634549'" and with that bl00dy awful slippery Challenge Cup ball too.

Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"Just watched the live forecast on BBC news and it could be torrential at times, heavy rain starts from 11pm tonight and does not stop till well after the game Shaul not been tested under the high ball in super league will this favour selection of Horne at FB? Dissapointed that the weather now looks like it could be so bad, could be a poor spectacle with team making least mistakes winning, (won't give a flying one if we win). Another "Water Splash" final? www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2634549'" and with that bl00dy awful slippery Challenge Cup ball too.

Wasn't Edwards 18, playing in his 2nd Challenge Cup final, and either already or very soon to be a GB international?

We don't really tend to kick to him anymore anyway, not sure if the leg injury he picked up in the '10 grand final effects his aerial ability, it certainly affects his speed!

Yes, he played at FB against Widnes in 1984

Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"Just watched the live forecast on BBC news and it could be torrential at times, heavy rain starts from 11pm tonight and does not stop till well after the game Shaul not been tested under the high ball in super league will this favour selection of Horne at FB? Dissapointed that the weather now looks like it could be so bad, could be a poor spectacle with team making least mistakes winning, (won't give a flying one if we win). Another "Water Splash" final? www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2634549'" All due respect, but how do you figure that Shaul hasn't been tested under the high ball?

Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"Just watched the live forecast on BBC news and it could be torrential at times, heavy rain starts from 11pm tonight and does not stop till well after the game Shaul not been tested under the high ball in super league will this favour selection of Horne at FB? Dissapointed that the weather now looks like it could be so bad, could be a poor spectacle with team making least mistakes winning, (won't give a flying one if we win). Another "Water Splash" final? www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2634549'" All due respect, but how do you figure that Shaul hasn't been tested under the high ball?

Oloughlin playing for them , but no we're near 100% fit . Taylor on the bench . Shame that because if Taylor wasn't picked he didn't want to play for them again . Keeping oloughlin quiet will go along way in us winning in my eyes , and helps us with him not been fully fit .

That's weird, weren't you telling us you had inside knowledge that Lockers wasn't playing less than a week ago.

There's no way Taylor was ever not getting picked with the form he's in, surely he knew that better than anyone

I said he was doubtful as he's injured , and he's playing carrying the injury hence the reason I said he's not 100% fit . Not inside info , I said who the info was from . Bonus in my eyes as I believe he's your most important player . Scot believes he should be in the team , that's why he said he didn't want to play for you again if not picked , as he's one of your form props and as been in and out for weeks .

Just goes to prove what people know on here...Lineham is fit and playing.....well,you know bugger all...i knew about Ben Crooks after the semi but didnt post anything.

Would be astonished if Taylor doubted for a second that he wouldn't be included for tomorrow, let alone saying he wouldn't play for the club again if he wasn't. Best prop in the squad by far

He's been dropped for one game in the last three months, which was when he was returning from injury. Even before that when his form wasn't as good he played 14 out of 18 games. We have 6 props who are all Super League level, all of which have been dropped/rested at some point this season. Can't really see where he's coming from if this is true.

Scot knows he's better then most of your props , and if he wasn't included tomoro he'd had enough . Luckily for you he's in . Yes I'd got told oloughlin wasn't playing , due to not been fit . He's now playing so we"ll see how fit he is as he's no we're near 100% , but like I said he's that important to you he's now playing . What I've heard your taking a massive risk , but suppose he's worth it as he's your leader and captain and leader in the pack as you have no one else to do that .

yes he played fullback

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