Ken Davy has pumped loadsa money into Hudds. with very little reward, a real fan but AP has managed the club on his budget and had genuine success and yet AP is vilified by some and one poster in particular who hates centres in general


He’s going around and rebuilding yet again, thank god he’s here. Hopefully next season’s new look team may be the one. I’ll renew my passes yet again and hope against hope it lots of jam today with my crust. Still going to pub and chippy tonight though

Danny Orr is a quiet achiever there too, you've only got to look at how Powell has struggled without him. He announced he is leaving Salford at the end of this season but I've not seen anything as to where he is going.
If Hodgson is here next season we need a fresh voice in and around training hopefully at the expense of Purtill.

Ian Blease deserves a ton of credit for that as their CEO, Hasting & Croft have spoken very highly of him and the way he sells the club. The fact James Clarke takes care of our signings & retentions is just baffling to me.

Feels like the whole culture of the squad and performance staff is rotten at Hull. The owner always backs them financially, the fan base is passionate and desperate for something to cheer for and they always have a talented squad. But the team does not deal with adversity well at all and haven't for a few years. When it starts to go wrong the wheels really fall off and I've lost count of the number of heavy defeats (and subsequent comments from the coach about attitude).

I do think Hull should give themselves a fresh start with a new coach but I don't think your problem is going to be solved with tactical or technical knowledge. The main thing for me would be to instill some real motivation, work ethic and resilience into the core of the group. Its just whether the players at Hull have the desire to really buy into a philosophy, commit to it and try and build something. If they don't then I think the club either needs a coach who can change those mindsets or begin a more ruthless overhaul of the squad to bring in players with a better attitude.

Seems to me that you’re outside looking in. There’s a ruthless rebuild going on now and hopefully when the dead woods been chopped away, we’ll see the green shoots of regrowth. I’m sure there’s an excellent coach in Hodgson somewhere but the toxic culture amongst some of our so called players just divides everyone.

Well practically everyone on here is on the outside looking in but you seem to be agreeing with the main point I made anyhow. Maybe Hodgson is capable of the rebuild himself - difficult to say.

For the record, Win % since 2000.

Research taken from RL project together with Wiki so view with extreme caution



COYH is our the stats man and I'm sure if he can be bothered I'd like him to rectify the many errors.

55% McRae

56% Kear

56% Sharp

46% Agar

53% Gentle

50% Radford

57% Last

43% Hodgson

Lies, damm lies and statistics??

Maybe unfair but interesting nevertheless.

I'd be interested in the first two years, particularly Radford?

first season in charge, missed the play offs....finished 10th irrc
2nd season....made the top 8....lost all 7 games in those matches

3rd season, 2016....ropey start then it clicked until he allowed the players to p!55 it up after wembley and scraped through the next 7 games until losing to Wigan in the play off semi final

so Hodgson gets ti easter next season in my eyes as he is having to rebulid like radford did (without Motu Tony doing the deals)

SL games only

Radford
2014 won 10/27 - 37%
2015 won 12/30 - 40%

Hodgson
2021 won 8/25 - 32%
2022 won 10/23 (so far) - 43ish%

The accuracy of these stats are questionable but in my opinion what cannot be disputed is sacking Sharp was a major blunder that set us back years.

deluded as always when it comes to criticism of the club.Its a good post and justified
Where is the ruthless rebuild?
We have added Hoy and Trueman
The catalyst to this is our coach.Two years into his contract and we are going backwards and we now have an Owner who has buried his head in the sand and looks like he has given up.
said it before but to think you can rebuild a club by relying on several promising younger players all making the grade and catapulting us into a top team is fantasy.
Yes players have to take responsibility but its quite obvious he doesnt have the disciplinarian in him to control them whether thats in the dressing room or on the field.
There are players who need moving on particularly Taylor and Griffin but replacing this coach should be the priority.
We have heard how the club moved forward with Brian Smith who molded a team of average players into a formidable and hard to beat unit and who was respected by his players and staff and thats what we now need even if we take a chance on a lower league UK coach because if we go another season with Hodgson we will still be going backwards.

Say what you like Hodgson going absolutely nowhere. He's sorting out the rotten wood although I have to be honest a bit slow for me. But he will get there. So you might as well put your dummy back

Unfortunately by then it might be too late.

I think he's gone.

Just can't see it, we will get 50 put on us by Salford, but all will be forgotten when we beat Toulose.

I thought that last week!
Has to now. Surely.

If I were Hull I'd be going all out for Shaun Wane. That's a guaranteed U turn in attitude and performance for me.

He wouldn't come, why would he, you are right though, we need some to sort out our structures and desire.

I honestly think we could lose the next 3 games and Hodgson will still be here next season.

Because its a huge club with great potential and the role would provide an exciting challenge for any hungry coach. Wane's been sat in the background for far too long - he needs to be back involved in week to week coaching.

James Clark looked like he had just been told to go and let Brett know he was no longer required when we saw the shots of Adam at the end there.

I think Brett would be fine coaching a load of world class players, but at Hull we need a coach who can deal with players who have faults and deficiencies in their game. Our players are pretty weak in the brain department and need a simple clear plan set out by a coach.

If you think we're ever going to replace our squad with 13 world class players who can play without a clear plan you're delusional.

Bye bye Brett.

If Hodgson goes, yet players like Taylor, Gale and Griffin stay, then I am done.

Conditioning team needs refreshing
Ourtill needs to go

I actually believe in what Hodgson is trying to do, he needs to get rid of the 'cancer' before this club can be great. If he doesn't get chance to finish it, then I thank him for highlighting the issues and starting the rebuild

Keep saying but he ain't going anywhere. He's clearing hull out and he will. Pearson rightly sticking to him

It's a big gamble though, the fans have already got a downer on him, so even if we make a miraculous recovery next season and start to look at the races it will only take a blip and bad run for the fans to get in his back.

I think it is too much faith to be put in an untested coach we need someone who has been there done that. Even with the deadwood we have I'd also expect to see signs of a style of play being stamped on them but with Hodgson I'm seeing nothing.

Think they all need to go and have a big reset, whether that’s possible I’m not so sure but the likes of Taylor, Houghton, Griffin & Gale have got to go along with Purtill If Hodgson is to stay them that has to be a minimum requirement. Personally think Hodgson should be moved to a DoR role and s new head and assistant coach brought in.
It may come at a cost but I think the cost of not doing so will hit the club and AP far harder.