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| Quote ="Chris71"Having played the game myself, I don't know what games you have been watching as there is little to see that gives me hope TBH.
Whether anyone has played or not it is not difficult to see the problems and to address them however this doesn't seem to be happening at all. The same mistakes are being made over and over again, little if anything has changed to our tactics/game plans etc. We are still inept at running any sort of angles (apart from Tickle), support play is still poor. Yes I know Agar hasn't his own players, we have injuries etc but these are simple basic skills (along with others) in rugby that our professional club just hasn't grasped.
I see very little to be positive about at this stage apart from the fact that the club still has a great army of fans who love their club, just a pity that the ones employed do not show a little more desire and commitment.'"
postives from this year
support has stayed strong(in numbers anyway) from fans even with the whole friday night debate, credit crunch and the poor performances.
in my view tommy lee, danny houghton and mike burnett all good young local players have further established themselves.
Richard whiting and Richard horne have both returned from serious injury problems last year.
Calderwood has played better then many thought and upto his injury had a good season.
Sam moa is having a real go and is getting better each week.
the recruitment for next year looks alot better then the previous years.
in my view there are still positives to take out of this year.
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| Quote ="miketomo"in my view there are still positives to take out of this year.'"
And that is fine, but what about:
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2) Poor discipline on the field
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4) Having to substitute our number 7 on multiple occasions because he was so poor
5) Poor interchange policy
There are as many negatives to take forward as well, which is one of the biggest concerns I have.
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| Quote ="miketomo"i did not say that. it the same as most things in life. every body is entitled to an opinion but at the same time you would trust some one whos has actually done the job themselves to have more educated one. Well atleast i have you all complaing at me and not the club or coach for a short while.
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Played Super League have you?
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| i am not saying there are no negatives and yes thats whats message boards are for. Onething i totally agree on is the number 7 issue but we have all had our say on that one. i just feel sometimes where all to quick to only point out the negatives.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Played Super League have you?'"
i did not realise super league rugby was a sport on its own.
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| Quote ="miketomo"i did not realise super league rugby was a sport on its own.'" No but to comment on it with any insight you must have played to that standard? Or does throwing a rugby ball around at the park qualify?
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| Quote ="miketomo"i did not say that. it the same as most things in life. every body is entitled to an opinion but at the same time you would trust some one whos has actually done the job themselves to have more educated one. Well atleast i have you all complaing at me and not the club or coach for a short while.
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The dangerous thing there is that the logic leads to things like taking George W Bush's advice on how to run a country.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"No but to comment on it with any insight you must have played to that standard? Or does throwing a rugby ball around at the park qualify?'"
i have played at a decent standard thank you.
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| Quote ="miketomo"i have played at a decent standard thank you.'"
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| The coaches have to go, senior players have to be dropped (obviously only those who arent playing well enough) as well as those seriously under performing. The likes of Hall, Maloney and Whiting need to be giving the chance again to start because Thorman and G.Horne are playing terrible and can be replaced. Players like King, Thackray, Radford and Tickle just arent good enough compared to what we will have in the pack, they cant really be replaced at the moment due to injuries in the pack although one can go for Maloney.
If Agar or Sharp is head coach next year, and big changes are not made with regards to under performing players, then this will be one season pass holder the club will lose. I've been loyal in my spell as a supporter, by the end of this year I will have spent over a grand following the club in 4 different countries, London and to the games such as Dewsbury away in the snow. I've spent thousands following the club since I first starting going regularly at the Boulevard in 2002. But I have bigger priorities now with a wedding to pay for and my final year of a degree, and I cannot jusitfy using that amount of time and that amount of money following a club where most people within it do not care enough, from top to bottom
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| Quote ="Standee"And that is fine, but what about:
1)Poor discipline on the field
2) Poor discipline on the field
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5) Poor interchange policy
There are as many negatives to take forward as well, which is one of the biggest concerns I have.'"
Exactly, these are the points that the fans are really p!55ed of about and have every right to complain about, plus you don't have to Einstein to see it.
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| Quote ="miketomo"i have played at a decent standard thank you.'"
Oh well in that case, all hail the chosen one.
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| Quote ="miketomo"i have played at a decent standard thank you.'"
Bully for you....i played to a high standard and had trials in Football but wouldnt ring up Cappello and tell him how to use his Goalies.
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| Quote ="miketomo"i have played at a decent standard thank you.'"
playing for Pint & Pot is hardly a decent standard
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| I know you keep saying about a clear out and 'certain' players being removed from the club but who at your club is actually out of contract at the end of the season and do any of the ones not wanted have another year? If so will they be paid off or just left to see out their contracts in the reserves?
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| Hate this thread.
Can't get that fooking Haircut 100 song out of my head
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| Quote ="barham red"I know you keep saying about a clear out and 'certain' players being removed from the club but who at your club is actually out of contract at the end of the season and do any of the ones not wanted have another year? If so will they be paid off or just left to see out their contracts in the reserves?'"
Sticky at Top of Board hass all the info...Titled HULL FC SQUAD.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Hate this thread.
Can't get that fooking Haircut 100 song out of my head
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aya ya ya ya ya, ayay aya ya ya ya, here we go.
Me too,
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Sticky at Top of Board hass all the info...Titled HULL FC SQUAD.'"
Thanks,
Looking at that you look stuck with a few of the main 'deadwood' for another year ie. King, Radford, Tickle (all mentioned on previous threads), can you see these being paid off or will they still be with you next year?
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| Quote ="barham red"Thanks,
Looking at that you look stuck with a few of the main 'deadwood' for another year ie. King, Radford, Tickle (all mentioned on previous threads), can you see these being paid off or will they still be with you next year?'"
What we WANT and what happens are going to be very different IMHO.
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| Quote ="barham red"Thanks,
Looking at that you look stuck with a few of the main 'deadwood' for another year ie. King, Radford, Tickle (all mentioned on previous threads), can you see these being paid off or will they still be with you next year?'"
Bit harsh on Tickle imo...would pay off Radford and King...say bye bye to Thacks as well....thats all his drinking buddies gone and he may hit his form again......
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Hate this thread.
Can't get that fooking Haircut 100 song out of my head
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I cannot get the Benny Hill theme tune out of my head when I think of FC
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| Quote ="hull smallears"I cannot get the Benny Hill theme tune out of my head when I think of FC'"
Billy Smart's Circus for me!!!
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| Quote ="barham red"Thanks,
Looking at that you look stuck with a few of the main 'deadwood' for another year ie. King, Radford, Tickle (all mentioned on previous threads), can you see these being paid off or will they still be with you next year?'"
Unless the RFL have given us some special dispensation to exceed the salary cap a fair number of players will be leaving.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Unless the RFL have given us some special dispensation to exceed the salary cap a fair number of players will be leaving.'"
Maybe their pay is performance based, if so we could be building the biggest squad in sporting history!
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