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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Dont like the way that the HDM write that he'll be in contention for the derby... if he's still here.
I'd have preferred it if they'd written that he's likely to not be in contention if dismissed. Semantics i know but their slant on it is too positive for Tansey!
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I thought that, also they missed the other possibilty, he may be suspended for a couple of games like he was at the end of last season. Don't think this solution would do Hull any good, still have a problem player on their hands and also a player missing for a game or 2 but it is a possiblilty.
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| Quote ="barham red"I thought that, also they missed the other possibilty, he may be suspended for a couple of games like he was at the end of last season. Don't think this solution would do Hull any good, still have a problem player on their hands and also a player missing for a game or 2 but it is a possiblilty.'"
He was suspended previously too and that didnt teach him a lesson. It's similar to me where you see people arrested for the same offence dozens of times and they get the same punishment each time. Doesnt stop them doing it again.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"He was suspended previously too and that didnt teach him a lesson. It's similar to me where you see people arrested for the same offence dozens of times and they get the same punishment each time. Doesnt stop them doing it again.
Need to get rid.'"
Ditto what he said! Very poor timing to be making this decision, but he's gotta go. He doesn't respect my club, I no longer respect him, and that will go for many fans, even if he stays, he wont get much of a warm welcome! In my opinion anyway.
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| Quote ="Digby"I personally think that is the way to go. He's put Agar in a very very difficult position and no matter what Agar decides to do he's going to get criticism.'"
agar won't get criticised for sacking tansey. He may get criticised for his squad being too small and us having no cover, but that isn't a direct effect of the tansey situation.
Anyway, I'd be surprised if agar gets the final say on this and I'd be disappointed if they keep him purely because we don't have any cover.
Sacking him would send out a powerful message to the current squad and future potential players. Keeping him would just show we're a soft touch and give carte blanche for players to take the piiss
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| he deserves to be sacked IMO
he has made a huge cock-up this time but i think missing the playoff game was alot worse. he is a tool
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| Quote ="Dan_FC"Has he ever not turned up to a game because he's pis$ed?'"
You're not seriously suggesting its ok to turn up for training pis$ed so long as you're sober on matchdays?
That may be acceptable in a pub team but its not in a professional one.
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| The kid deserves to go, but it's been nearly a week now, and the more this plays out, the more I think we are going to give him one more chance (allbeit becuase of our paper thin squad).
The fact is most players go through their whole careers without an ounce of trouble, and Tansey has been stood down 3 times in little over a year. All the evidence points directly to the door.
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| Quote ="old_faithful"The kid deserves to go, but it's been nearly a week now, and the more this plays out, the more I think we are going to give him one more chance (allbeit becuase of our paper thin squad).
The fact is most players go through their whole careers without an ounce of trouble, and Tansey has been stood down 3 times in little over a year. All the evidence points directly to the door.'"
The process of taking someone through the disciplinary process to prove that their misdemeanors are cause for dismissal takes longer than a week - particulaly if there are legal representatives involved.
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| Didn't one of the premiership teams (I seem to remember it being manchester united) had a scheme where any fans who saw players out drinking could call a number and report them? Could "Tanseywatch" be a new way of the club to keep tabs on him?
Because of the build of the squad at the minute I don't see how we can affiord to let him go, so I can see them giving a(nother) final warning and a maximum fine (whatever that is).
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| Quote ="downtheante"The process of taking someone through the disciplinary process to prove that their misdemeanors are cause for dismissal takes longer than a week - particulaly if there are legal representatives involved.'"
I would have the club have a pretty concrete case against the kid with him being a repeat offender. Certainly enough evidence against him to deem his contract void due to serious breaches.
I think the board are biding as much time as possible to see how our recruitment drive plays out, before commiting to sacking him, which is wrong IMO becuase what he has done warrants his termination, regardless of the current state of our squad.
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| Quote ="old_faithful"I would have the club have a pretty concrete case against the kid with him being a repeat offender. Certainly enough evidence against him to deem his contract void due to serious breaches.
I think the board are biding as much time as possible to see how our recruitment drive plays out, before commiting to sacking him, which is wrong IMO becuase what he has done warrants his termination, regardless of the current state of our squad.'"
Nowadays, there are certain steps that they have to follow - each of those steps requires a period of notice. Both parties need time to gather evidence for their "discussions" so that a fair result can be reached. I have not seen this happen in a week with the current legislation.
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| I reckon the club want rid. If he was staying it would have been announced and done and dusted by now. Keeping him out of the team photo is further evidence to suggest that is the case despite how it might be dressed up by Agar as keeping him out of the limelight. Due process is being followed and if Tansey has no comebacks he's gone IMHO.
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| Quote ="downtheante"Nowadays, there are certain steps that they have to follow - each of those steps requires a period of notice. Both parties need time to gather evidence for their "discussions" so that a fair result can be reached. I have not seen this happen in a week with the current legislation.'"
I hope a verdict is reached sooner rather than later. I would like to believe the club will make the right decision and get rid!
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| Quote ="old_faithful"I hope a verdict is reached sooner rather than later. I would like to believe the club will make the right decision and get rid!'"
I am pretty sure this can be done in two weeks - particularly as there have been two previous incidents that were serious enough for action to have been taken: that is the kind of evidence you need in a case like this if an employee is to be terminated. I reckon that's why they say it will be known before the derby (assuming they mean MM)
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| I think sack him but keep him on a rolling contract.
Also can you not put a tag on him so he has a curfew.
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| Quote ="Hazzer"I think sack him but keep him on a rolling contract.
Also can you not put a tag on him so he has a curfew.'"
I'll give you a shout next time I need some employment law advice
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'll give you a shout next time I need some employment law advice'"
Ok, scenario.
Hull have legitimate reasons to terminate contract. Nobody goes in for Tansey in the weeks after this decision has been made however the club keet it quiet.
Tansey then has two choices, hand his resignation in but be re-signed on a temporary contract or sign onto job seekers allowance.
I know which I would rather do.
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| Quote ="Hazzer"Ok, scenario.
Hull have legitimate reasons to terminate contract. Nobody goes in for Tansey in the weeks after this decision has been made however the club keet it quiet.
Tansey then has two choices, hand his resignation in but be re-signed on a temporary contract or sign onto job seekers allowance.
I know which I would rather do.'"
If Tansey has his contract terminated he will be a free agent and will not have to hand his resignation in. Legally we cannot change his contract to a rolling from a permanent. We either dismiss him or we dont. If we decide to dismiss him why would we choose to bring him back on a rolling? He's still broken the disciplinary rules and there wouldnt be any point imo.
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| I still think keep him but on a final warning, from what I hear this has hit him really hard so maybe it might be the first step in him getting his act together.
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| Quote ="Hazzer"Ok, scenario.
Hull have legitimate reasons to terminate contract. Nobody goes in for Tansey in the weeks after this decision has been made however the club keet it quiet.
Tansey then has two choices, hand his resignation in but be re-signed on a temporary contract or sign onto job seekers allowance.
I know which I would rather do.'"
So you'd take back on a player who has taken the piiss and been a disruptive influence whilst under contact?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I still think keep him but on a final warning, from what I hear this has hit him really hard so maybe it might be the first step in him getting his act together.'"
I've got no sympathy. It hit us hard losing in the playoffs last year when he let his team mates and the fans down.
Once is a mistake, twice is taking the mickey and three times is just wrong! He needs to go.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I still think keep him but on a final warning, from what I hear this has hit him really hard so maybe it might be the first step in him getting his act together.'"
there is no doubting he has the X factor with ball in hand!! not many in SL have that
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I've got no sympathy. It hit us hard losing in the playoffs last year when he let his team mates and the fans down.
Once is a mistake, twice is taking the mickey and three times is just wrong! He needs to go.'"
Yeah I can see that too. Happy whichever way Agar went but personally we need players right now and that would influence my decision provided he showed genuine remorse and apologised to his teammate and the fans. He was one of our most dangerous players last season with ball in hand and that would sway my thinking.
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