I agree with others that Westy recieved some unfiar flack at times ,and IMO although not being spectacular was a steady grafter.I do however feel that the Club has done the right thing if the Cash is used well.Abdul is a ready made replacment and is every bit has good with a better kicking game plus he is improving and will be a great player.If all we hear is right then we have got shut of the players seen has disruptive and not sticking to the "Culture" .We move on and look forward and hope its all falling into place

Give it up, mate. There's none so blind as those that will not see.

going to Salford

Precisely how we feel regarding your own viewpoints.

The evidence to our own arguments are no less valid to us than your evidence is to you. One thing is for sure though, the likes of Knocker or Jason Smith didn't have 50% of the Hull supporters thinking they was average players.

He has the advantage of listening to the radio, whilst we go to the games.

I think there is a good player in Westerman.

I actually think our attacking structure will be better without him, if you have Hull FC TV, watch the Catalans home game. we looked clueless in attack, Westerman got injured and wwnt off an we went on to play some great rugby, that's not Westermans fault, but I don't think he worked with our two pivots (Compared to the year before when we had none), at times he just looked a spare part.

I actually think he should play out wide were he did in 2011 and played his best rugby IMO.

Completely agree with this.

Knocker was well ahead of his time skill wise compared other players of the same era.

Smith was a maverick who could take the game by the scruff of the neck and had the ability to open up defenses.

Westerman worked hard for the most. Was better then just "bang average" as some have described, but rarely was he outstanding.

£150k is good business. Hopefully the Tony / Radford / Pearson can identify an appropriate player to come ( preferably) and use the cap space to good use. Happy for us to wait for the right player, no point in knee jerk signings. Problem will be that there are unlikely to be many OOC high profile players at the moment. Hence I would hope to see a mid season signing at some point.

I actually think winger is more of an issue, if we play Logan and Fonua as centres (With Carlos T as an option) then I am happy.

Two of Talanoa, Michaels or Naughton on the wings concerns me more.

Whiting,Michaels to cas in exchange for Carney
Will be sorry to see Richard go but can't see where and how often he'll play first team next year.

It's the wail who said high profile, the club have said they have a little room on the cap

Don't spoil it. Not like the HDM to get carried away is it?

There may be some more cap room to play with shortly as i am told that a couple of your players have been fixed up with 12 month loan spells elsewhere. I have no idea who or where but im guessing a couple of your younger lads. Abdul and Fash maybe?

At least you loan yours out and dont give them away like my club.

Given our strength in the back row £150k for a player with a year left on his contract is great business.

While I can understand given the club's financial position that AP will want to retain the fee to spend in other areas, if he wants to sell passes he would be wise to spend the spare cap on an outside back.

But not Welham.

I haven't heard that but got told whiting was next to go , probably makes sense with the young kids coming through .

God i hope so

why would cas want whiting and michaels? When they let carney go for a fee they'll replace him with someone good

It wont be Abdul.
I can see Abdul and Hadley at 13 for next season

I love the way mrs B and others slurp up the gash served to them, 150k for Westerman...do me a favour!
It would seem so many are blinded with their faith they can't see the reality of what was and has happened...

IF we do 'all of a sudden' have cap space relating to Westerman's salary then given how we really need to make an impression next year then we would be spending right up to the cap on a better player for the backline, Pearson would be selling the club and the fans short by not forming the best squad possible within the cap.
Next year is even more vital than ever, certainly the rallying cry from the club says as much and frankly it definitely is given how fans are becoming apathetic and all the losses Pearson continually goes on about.
So, I'm not holding my breath on actually using that cap space until I see someone of quality being signed up.

Smoke and mirrors and a lot of bullshat.

great business for us,we could have sold him for £300,000 and some wouldn't be happy, let the doom mongers keep whinging away,when we start well they will soon scury under they rocks

Are you saying the fee wasn't £150,000?

we could have abdull Hadley manu playing 13 so plenty of choices, we have imo still one of the best packs in sl, be nice now to get another back COYH

MRS B he was there don't you know

Totally agree. There's an opportunity here to strengthen in the right place. Hope budget and availability allows us to do so.

I just don't know why he is saying the fee is a lie.

because that's what he does