I genuinely don't think we have and before he got injured he was proving his class.

I'll judge Horney at the end of the year. Whatever happens he's still young enough to bounce back.

think people tend to forget how young he is, he seems to have been around that long, he'll come good after this latest injury, im not writing him off just yet

27/28 isnt he? 5 or 6 years left in him at least.

it seems as though hes a lot older, have watched Rich since the A-team days, and he was always a great player, still is a great player, hes just been very unfrotunate with injuries/illness, the only thing he seems to have lost is his defence, he was a great defender nothing much got past Horney, maybe this is just a confidence thing, after his neck injury? get that back and him and Long on the pitch, people wont be too quick to slate the kid!

I think he's a lot less bulky than he used to be because of his diabetes. That in itself can make him less effective in defence. For me he now defends more like a halfback should. He was always too good in defence (if there is such a thing)

I think he pace was there and he had the power to break tackles earlier in the season. Looking forward to seeing him back. When's he due back out of interest?

as soon as possible i hope!! lol
im not sure, just as long as hes fully fit, and not rushed back!

is ratchford ooc at the end of the season?

Wonder why there is a clammer to get Ratchford on board?? yes he is English but currently struggling to hold a regular first team spot at the reds isnt he

Kosh he's back

Has Bomber dropped him because he is leaving??

i doubt there is a ''clammer'' to get him on board.just a thought that he's young,english,potential,and may be a good financial option to have as a 3rd halfback

I know I shouldn't but that tickled me

No mate, I don't think so. Holdsworth and Smith have been playing in the halves and are both more experienced. Besides I don't think he is definately leaving yet as there is an option for a another year on his contract.

Thought Bomber was just giving him the Myler treatment.

In fairness Holdsworth and Smith are probably better players and he might also have a bit of second season syndrome.

I know he's highly rated but the games ive seen him he seems to have a Thormanesque tackling technique

I think he's got promise but i'm not sure i'd be fighting to sign him.

As one of the many friendly IMs I recieved said
"[uthose who live under rocks need to be brought out to see the light ocassionally[/u"
so I am just ignoring the silly negative childish people and cracking on with those who are interested.

Was it from Eric Cantona?

Well said Comrade

'the seagulls follow the trawler because theyre totally lost?'

Or because it stinks of fish

Agar stinks of fish?

No thats Old Spice but close