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| Quote ="scarrie"That's fair enough. I can see why he would frustrate some people. Definitely areas for improvement, which TS does allude to in the press release.
Time will tell I guess!'"
If he can stop his sin bins and bans then I wouldnt be as bothered. He needs to step up, he doesnt walk into every other clubs 17 thats why hes still here.
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| Quote ="Hullrealist"Aren’t salford struggling financially at the minute? Even if they have a plan together, I imagine OOC players will be a bit nervous and would jump ship if the opportunity came.
The reality is majority of players don’t really care who the play for as long as they’re getting paid and playing week in week out'"
I think that the article circulating around about Salford being I financial trouble actually relates to the 2018 season when Marwan left them in financial strife, I read that there trying to go 'community owned' rather than 'community run'
So I'm not sure they are in trouble, or not any more trouble than the rest of our clubs
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| Quote ="pmarrow"If he can stop his sin bins and bans then I wouldnt be as bothered. He needs to step up, he doesnt walk into every other clubs 17 thats why hes still here.'"
Out of interest do you apply the "must walk into every other team" criteria to all our players or just the overseas ones?
I assume the latter.
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| Find it puzzling that some posters are criticising ligi sao signing.
He was good enough to play against Australia in the World Cup final?
His discipline? He’s been part of an underperforming team for how many seasons?
Most, if not all the first team have struggled with discipline and attitude.
We can’t replace them all, I reckon 5 at the most.
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| Quote ="scarrie"Out of interest do you apply the "must walk into every other team" criteria to all our players or just the overseas ones?
I assume the latter.'"
Well im no racist so it doesnt bother me where the players are from. If they perform and do a job for us then I am happy they are here. Sao for me doesnt do enough and has being more of a liability then reliable.
The fact he looks better then other members of the squad isnt a high benchmark for me going onwhere we have ended up in his time here.
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"Find it puzzling that some posters are criticising ligi sao signing.
He was good enough to play against Australia in the World Cup final?
His discipline? He’s been part of an underperforming team for how many seasons?
Most, if not all the first team have struggled with discipline and attitude.
We can’t replace them all, I reckon 5 at the most.'"
I would hazard a guess hes right up there for sin bins / red cards/ bans for us over the past 5 seasons.
We have made the playoffs once in his time here and that was thanks to covid.
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"Find it puzzling that some posters are criticising ligi sao signing.
He was good enough to play against Australia in the World Cup final?
His discipline? He’s been part of an underperforming team for how many seasons?
Most, if not all the first team have struggled with discipline and attitude.
We can’t replace them all, I reckon 5 at the most.'"
But people are basing him been a great player cos he played for samoa at WC
He's been average for us alot of the time stupid penaltys sin bins none of that happened for samoa
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| Quote ="B0NES"As proved this year though , Sao knows what he will get if he doesn't perform under TS .'"
Get what ?
Another deal ? Place in the team every week ?
Cause smith has kept majority of the same players in the team week in week out who have been a disgrace for 90% of the season
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Get what ?
Another deal ? Place in the team every week ?
Cause smith has kept majority of the same players in the team week in week out who have been a disgrace for 90% of the season
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Disagree, Smith has dropped Savelio, Lane, Brown, Evans at times this season, shipped out Wynne on loan due to fitness. The recurrent picking of Joe at no6 was baffling but he seems to have abandoned that at last.
There have been weeks where id have loved to have seen like 10 players dropped but we dont have the squad to do that, its also beleived there are some salary cap implications for giving players their debut, such as a player may get a salary increase for making a 1st team appearance.
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"I would be amazed if we signed SKD. Doesn't seem to make much sense. However, if it was a 1yr deal, with them having a longer term target at Centre the year after, then I could live with that - plus, he and his wife are spending a lot of time with the Clifford's so could help us to keep Jake for another year and not have him looking at going back to the NRL'"
SKD is also close to Tony Smith. Often can be seen chewing the fat in The Wheatsheaf.
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| Wouldn't be surprised to see some more retention announced this evening, would make sense to keep the feel good factor going following sundays win.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Well im no racist so it doesnt bother me where the players are from. If they perform and do a job for us then I am happy they are here. Sao for me doesnt do enough and has being more of a liability then reliable.
The fact he looks better then other members of the squad isnt a high benchmark for me going onwhere we have ended up in his time here.'"
I wasn't implying that you were racist, far from it!
I meant that saying a player wouldn't walk into every other side so we should re-sign them would be unreasonable if applied to every player in the team but I could just about understand if applied to the limited commodity of overseas players.
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"Wouldn't be surprised to see some more retention announced this evening, would make sense to keep the feel good factor going following sundays win.'"
3 others have new deals with offers on the table for 2 others as things stand.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"I would hazard a guess hes right up there for sin bins / red cards/ bans for us over the past 5 seasons.
We have made the playoffs once in his time here and that was thanks to covid.'"
In place of Sao , then who would you want?
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"Wouldn't be surprised to see some more retention announced this evening, would make sense to keep the feel good factor going following sundays win.'"
Don’t know how significant it is but Balmforth changed his Twitter profile picture yesterday to one of him in his FC shirts.
Didn’t say anything but just felt like he was trying to give clues based on the timing
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"3 others have new deals with offers on the table for 2 others as things stand.'"
Guess it's Taylor, Fash and Cator. With Swift and Satae having offers
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"Wouldn't be surprised to see some more retention announced this evening, would make sense to keep the feel good factor going following sundays win.'"
Hardly a feel good factor if its Taylor,Griffin or Houghton but no doubt the club will make the same misplaced loyalty 1 year extensions.
They never learn
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| Quote ="bonaire"Hardly a feel good factor if its Taylor,Griffin or Houghton but no doubt the club will make the same misplaced loyalty 1 year extensions.
They never learn'"
Two of those Three I reckon will be retiring come the end of the season
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"Wouldn't be surprised to see some more retention announced this evening, would make sense to keep the feel good factor going following sundays win.'"
One victory against a poor Giants side and Pearson has the gullible on board again.Perplexing.
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| Quote ="scarrie"I wasn't implying that you were racist, far from it!
I meant that saying a player wouldn't walk into every other side so we should re-sign them would be unreasonable if applied to every player in the team but I could just about understand if applied to the limited commodity of overseas players.'"
I see your point and obviousley with a quota spot used they becomes more expectation or preassure if you like considering the premium of them. However no more then if you were a domestic based player on a marquee contract or a lot of cap.
Hope he proves me wrong but IMO hes had a chance to shine and hasnt
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"In place of Sao , then who would you want?'"
They is plenty out there who I would have ahead of him.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"They is plenty out there who I would have ahead of him.'"
You haven't answered his question though.
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| Not looking to argue with folk on here but looking at the bigger picture.
There’s a very small talent pool of players in rugby league.
Further restricted by Salary cap.
When I read posters comments on players I just get frustrated by their grasp on the realities.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"You haven't answered his question though.'"
Well I have. Did you want me to list every prop forward in the Rugby League world id rather have ahead of him ? Sao is average at best and he wouldnt get in many of the sides at the top of SL and none in the NRL.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Well I have. Did you want me to list every prop forward in the Rugby League world id rather have ahead of him ? Sao is average at best and he wouldnt get in many of the sides at the top of SL and none in the NRL.'"
The fact he wouldn't get in an NRL side has no relevance at all, saying that if Kane Evans got games I see no reason why Sao couldn't. He would also get in Wigans squad, better than both Mago and Ellis.
You could name every prop, but it would be pointless, as 99.9% aren't available, maybe name some props that are available?
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