End of the day to be successful we've got to be ruthless in evolving the squad, we can't just keep saying oh but he tackles all day, or oh but he might make a good winger. It's this mentality whereas you end up just wasting cap space. I think Hodgson is far shrewder than that.

Mau I'd keep on a reduced one year deal which looks as that's what happening
Houghton one more season for me then a full time replacement is found, I'm caught between do we use the overseas spot for an impact prop or do we sign someone like joey lussick

Shaul let go around 100k of cap tied up on a backup fullback , Macintosh can cover Connor
Bowden let go, doesn't look interested
Matongo let go
And if I could I'd move Fonua on to free up the chunk of cap and quota spot.

My thoughts would be towards an NRL or reserve grade prop or someone domestic like Pauli Pauli to come on and be a handful with size and power, need an upgrade on Bowden, I think Brown deserves more game time.

Add Lussick if we can move Fonua on.

Sneyds general play seems to be getting worse.Cant remember when he put together two or three decent performances.
We cant keep playing him just because he can kick field goals.
We can all see his deficiencies and at his age he is not going to change the way he plays.When you see the attacking threat of other halfs like Widdop or Fages yesterday it makes you wonder if this is another position we should be seriously looking at changing
I dont go with this he is an on field organizer.
We dont have an on field organizer in this current squad and thats something we are missing when it comes to building pressure and composure.
Having watched yesterdays game again and the good start we made we gifted that game to Saints with our errors but again we didnt turn them round once with kicks into the in goal to drain some energy.
You have to credit the team for their fitness and never say die attitude and we could have so easily snatched victory with a bit more composure.
Our overseas forwards worked their socks off and in big Chris we have one of the best front rows in S/L.Just hope we can keep him

Certainly Fonua wont be missed

I have to say Connors lack of pace was really evident at times yesterday.
Its a real pity because with his size and ability if he had pace he would be world class

.... so apart from Shaul, Griffin, Connor, Sneyd, Bowden, Houghton, Fash, Fariamo, Fonua, Johnstone, Matonga et al, you're more than happy with the squad.

Take Griffin and Connor out and yes you've got a pretty good list of who needs upgrading/releasing well done

.... maybe, one day, you'll understand what the word "supporter" actually means.

Whinging and criticising seems to be all that some on here are capable of doing.

It won't be long before Griffin is being described as "injury prone".

The only tarnished silver lining from yesterday is that some posters won’t be ramming Griffin to second row down our throats for some time.

Im all for opinions on a forum, but some right rubbish on this thread

sneyd one of the best organizer in SL, WE GET YOU DONT RATE HIM ALONG WITH MOST OF THE HULL PLAYERS,

Quit whining about people analysing our squad and where were at, you big baby, as soon as someone constructivley critcises your backs up, if you cant handle certain posters put them on ignore and quit the snide immaturity

Analysing??? Seriously, hammering most of our squad after a narrow defeat against the bar far best team in sl is ridiculous

Tad dramatic

You keep saying this, but what does he organise, certainly not the defence and our attack has been poor for a few years?

Seriously. He has won us so many matches with his organization. He leads us round the park. Our main talker on the pitch. It's Reynolds who's been the quiet one. Fair enough you don't rate him that's your opinion but to bring it up every time we lose. We don't agree let's move on

I think we should replace every player in every position with a better player who is more committed to FC who will give 100% every week while also staying under the cap, keeping within quota restrictions and without having to pay off existing contracts. Also I need a new unicorn, my last one left me.

Well done you've won a drama badge too, need any more attention?

I want Hull to be the top team and we wont with with Sneyd the way he has played the last 3 or so years. In 2016, he took on the line more, set up more trys and had a good kicking game, this hasnt done this consistently since 2017.

How does he lead us around the park when our attack is poor.

Reynolds has been disappointing too, but its early days and he certainly isnt quiet.

Any other player would have been dropped by now, but he is cant be dropped.

If you are happy with our attack and us been a 5th place team, then that's up to you, but we wont win anything unless I pivots are changed or they improve

In our spine we have:

Connor
Reynolds
Sneyd
Houghton

One is joint top for assists
One is a SoO number 6

Those 2 are not the issue. For me, we do need a new 7 and a new number 9 (I would keep Houghton for what its worth, but off the bench)

Sneyd just doesn't create, and is a liability in defence. We had a 4 on 2 overlap on Saturday and he kicked it!! He has no confidence in his passing ability to put players into a gap. I also noticed in the last few games also, that players don't really run lines for him, as maybe they know he cannot put them into the gap as he doesn't take it close enough to the line to engage defenders. All he seems to do is the drop off.

good post.

Whatever we are seeing, I’m sure BH is seeing the same

He’ll be working with what he’s got. I’m also pretty sure it’s still only early days.

I reckon some of our play is muscle memory of how we’ve been asked to play over the last few seasons. That can’t be changed overnight.

As for Sneyd, he’s not the complete halfback, but he’s been a proven match winner for us time and again.

Also think DH has been flogged to death over the last five years. I’m surprised he’s still got anything left in the tank.

Unless something drastic happens, and assuming we resign Connor, then we are going to go into 2022 with the same spine as this year. Improvements to the squad will likely take place elsewhere.

But then the contracts of Sneyd, Reynolds and Houghton expire so we may will enter 2023 with a dramatically different side. By that point I think we can all agree we will be ready for some new blood.

We need a 6 who will take the pressure of Sneyd. He's not a running 7. Reynolds has done next to nothing apart from his first 2 games and everyone was saying what a good halfback pairing we have. IMO Sneyd is not out problem. We get a decent team on the park and he will do fine. I honestly can't believe the flak he gets

He has had Connor and Kelly at 6 in recent years and the same criticism of Sneyd has been levelled at him. Unfortunately now, you need a 7 who will take it to the line, and he does not, and will not do that. Fages, Hastings, Widdop, Sezer, Richardson, Drinkwater, Lino all take it to the line, prepared to put their body on the line to engage defenders to create space for the full back. That is the role of the 7 these days in the attacking structure

You can make a point for some of those names mentioned, but never Richardson, he's so windy. Can't get a game at Cas.

He's just a show pony, i can't believe Cas actually paid a transfer fee for him. Saints will be laughing their heads off...