https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2021/01/16/ ... ynodwigdMY Hodgson also provided an update on Jake Connor, adding: “Jake has had a bit of an issue with the back of his leg with some swelling. “We’re just monitoring him a little bit at the moment in these early stages of pre-season but I’ve got no doubt that by the middle of next week, he’ll be back out on the training field.”

https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2021/01/16/ ... ynodwigdMY Hodgson also provided an update on Jake Connor, adding: “Jake has had a bit of an issue with the back of his leg with some swelling. “We’re just monitoring him a little bit at the moment in these early stages of pre-season but I’ve got no doubt that by the middle of next week, he’ll be back out on the training field.”

Where does it say about Wynne?

Could be a god move and the making of him. Explosive player. Similar to Ratu in when he gets space he's gone, see that try against Rovers

Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Where does it say about Wynne? Could be a god move and the making of him. Explosive player. Similar to Ratu in when he gets space he's gone, see that try against Rovers'" https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... fe-4890170

Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Where does it say about Wynne? Could be a god move and the making of him. Explosive player. Similar to Ratu in when he gets space he's gone, see that try against Rovers'" https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... fe-4890170

Connor has been given the number 1 squad number, and with Shaul back mid season too it is probably wise for Wynne to try to earn a place on the wing. He is good enough.

agree could be used short term, but think his main speed is over 20/30 m dont see him as a speed merchant but could do a job if needed,

I agree
not fast over 90 metres but like a lot of short step runners quick over the first 20/30 meters
What Wynne does have is a great step.

Season end either we sell Connor or put him back to centre or Wynne is going to be wasted fighting for a wing position! The problem was the stupid three year deal for Fonua that Radford gave him, that ties down not just a significant amount of cap space for two more years, but means just like last year we have too many centres at the club.

Shifting Griffin to SR is going to be interesting, not sure he's the right stuff for 2nd row but hope he can prove he is. yes he can pass and has pace but can he tackle/do the graft, it's the only way out to free up the positions for centre yet again and releasing Jones means Griffin will get game time but it's not ideal is it having four headline centres at the club and pushing two of them into positions that aren't where they are most effective. Putting Connor at FB is just shuffling around, if Shaul wasn't injured long term we'd be looking at having three players for one spot again.

I'd rather have seen Wynne getting a shot at cementing the FB spot for this season and going forward with us releasing Shaul or using him as a utility back/ interchange scoot merch at 9, Johnstone is the clubs current best no.9 future regards the DH position at the moment but Houghton still has another 2 years, another error in judgement and the usual club Hull misplaced 'loyalty'
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Still think centre is Connor's best position by far, not overly impressed with him at FB in all honesty, yes he adds something over Shaul in some regards but his lack of pace and defensive qualities don't outweigh any attacking advantage for me.

And yet one never knows how things will pan out, Connor might be a revelation, Wynne gets a go at wing and replaces Fairamo for next year, Griffin turns out to be a Liam Farrell type and Fonua learns how to defend ...



Just hope we improve and get the fans appetite whetted for when we are able to get back to watch live.

I like many was wanting to see Wynne play last year but when he did he wasnt great tbh. Hes still a way off being a first choice full back - going to wing could be the making of him

I too think Connors best position is in the centres but is lack of pace is evident there just like when he plays full back. But if we play him like Catalan play Sam Tomkins then he'll hopefully be more involved which can only be a good thing for our attack

With regards Houghton i think too many where quick to right him off but hes still a quality player when used correctly and for me is still better than JJ

Not saying Houghton is no good but we've brought about a bit of complacency IMO by handing out longer contracts for players that wouldn't get a gig elsewhere or for same money. Whichever way you see regards DH v JJ, Houghton isn't the future and we need to be looking forward regards what we do interchange wise. Flogging Houghton for 80 minutes has not, IMO benefited him, team results/the club, we need to be looking within the ranks for a future DH replacement to combine with Johnstone if he is to be the starting hooker. Handing out longer contracts for players toward the end of their careers or in scenarios were everyone/team is underperforming, is a sentiment we cannot afford, clubs like Wigan rarely ever do this, nor should we.
This isn't just about DH, it's about how we sign off contracts full stop.

Difference is Seb that Tomkins still has pace compared to Connor.
I too think Connors best position is at centre and he is the best player we currently have taking a high crossfield kick or batting it back to a teammate

I think Danny Houghton showed us later last season that he still has a role to play and in my opinion is still the clubs number one at 9.
I like Johnstone but he doesnt run enough and he lacks that speed from acting half which is so important now.
Still think Shaul would make a real impact at nine with his pace from acting half

Am happy to have Houghton around. Gives us cover and gives us a option of the bench. But atm I believe Johnston is our starting hooker. He isn't no slouch and IMO has a better rugby brain. Also wouldn't have Houghton as capt. Sneyd for capt

I did put that up as a potential role for Shaul but it's rather limiting, if Reynolds adds to our attack overall along with BH game plan, then we absolutely need a FB that can follow up his breaks, that isn't Connor, but Shaul and indeed Wynne is more likely to be the types to follow up breaks that we hope Reynolds has been making in NRL

It would have been interesting to see how Shaul might have gone under BH as he's basically had a premature intro to first team due to SM injury and subsequent departure and then had 6.5 years under Radford who has not adjusted Shaul's play in any way shape or form. I don't mind Shaul as a FB, his on the goal line defence is a bit weak and his ability in the line when attacking in the 20 is also limited but the rest I'm okay with. Time with BH to give Shaul a chance to change some habits/be a better player from pre season I would have liked to see, but then we have a FB already in Wynne, yes he's not the finished article, neither was Shaul when he got his chance, but Hodgson was a top FB himself and he's been acknowledged by others as being able to improve their game, so why not give Wynne the chance? But the whole Connor, Fonua, Griffin, Carlos situation is forcing matters as to who plays where as it has done for a while now.

All il say is 7 assists in 2 games from Connor at Fullback, and fans are nit picking lol

Which 2 games were they?

best player on the pitch by a mile against the team we love to hate (4assists) https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ry-4655235 And then again vs Warrington, two huge games he produced the goods from fullback (3assists) Won't let me share the sky link vs Warrington

best player on the pitch by a mile against the team we love to hate (4assists) https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ry-4655235 And then again vs Warrington, two huge games he produced the goods from fullback (3assists) Won't let me share the sky link vs Warrington

Who is nit picking? We are discussing where we see players being used to benefit the team most, we don't all agree on that and that is fine, that's what discussion forums are about!
Connor is a weaker defensive FB compared to Shaul IMO, offers less in terms of backing up breaks, being able to scoot from dummy half/open field. I don't dislike Connor, i just want to see him in a position were we get the most benefit, with a more expansive team that could have been at centre where we've seen him be brilliant. Shaul's long term injury has dictated things to a degree for this season but so has the fact we've four front line centres on our books, it created, a situation of squeezing Connor on the bench - in favour of another forward, because we had Griffin/Carlos at centre and last season with the reintroduction of Fonua, Griffin being used as a pseudo forward. We lost Kelly for significant portions so Connor played at 6 but he's not and never has been a 6, much like Carlos is not a 6 either. It's fitting square pegs into round holes

Will Connor at FB bring us more tries in the 20, possibly, but we lose something at centre and also I think we have a weaker defensive FB that what we had. I just want what's best like everyone else who supports the club, hope things pan out but converting centres to FB and second row respectively because we've too many players in the same position isn't ideal by any stretch. it might work out fine, more than fine but we should never have been in that situation in the first place.

Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"best player on the pitch by a mile against the team we love to hate (4assists) https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ry-4655235 And then again vs Warrington, two huge games he produced the goods from fullback (3assists) Won't let me share the sky link vs Warrington'" ..... RFL stats have him down with 4, 2 and 0 from our last 3 games.

Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"best player on the pitch by a mile against the team we love to hate (4assists) https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ry-4655235 And then again vs Warrington, two huge games he produced the goods from fullback (3assists) Won't let me share the sky link vs Warrington'" ..... RFL stats have him down with 4, 2 and 0 from our last 3 games.

RFL stats are wrong. its the RFL they couldn't count with an abacus

I'm aware it's a forum I feel people are nit picking with Connor, two huge performances in two huge games at fullback produced 7 assists, that shows the class of the guy in the correct pivot role, he'l improve further under Hodgson.

With it being a forum and we post opinions I think some on here have got Connors best position wrong.
If your going to point out defending, and mention Shaul. Defending is one of Shauls major flaws, if you go back to the Warrington game where they hammered us last season I think it was the game we sacked Radford, I have it recorded, then watch it back and don't watch the ball for Warringtons tries, watch Shaul, you l see all his defensive flaws. Doesn't come over in the Ingoal area to cover actually just jogs or walks. Makes bad decisions coming into the defensive line when teammates are there .

Sorry but Connors a better all around fullback, doesn't have Shauls speed but makes up for that in other ways, superior reading of the game, positioning

Just my opinion , I think itl prove correct next season ..........

"A huge performance" against the bottom club with the worst defensive record in the league, a slight exaggeration I think.

You then single out Shaul in one of the worst team performances in a long time. We'll miss him this coming season.

Derbys are always unpredictable read the forums on matchday when we play rovers a lot don't predict huge wins.
Was Warringtons defence crap too?

Like I say go back and watch Shaul individually in numerous games you l spot his defensive flaws.

Or don't doesn't matter to me.

We won't miss him, Connor will thrive. Bookmark this convo and we l rediscuss at the end of the season

Enjoy your week

Bit conflicted on this point. Derbies hold more emotional importance than the average fixture but I don't think you can call a match against a team with 3 SL wins in 572 days (including one against Salford's academy) "huge". However I am looking forward to seeing Connor being a different dimension to FB. Hopefully he gets over his injury soon.

You're nit picking aren't you? As mentioned the Warrington game was a massive team defeat that for the most part lay at the hands of the coach, putting it all on Shaul is disgraceful and disrespectful!
Shaul gets to the ball faster than Connor does on kicks, from what I've seen of Connor so far Shaul is safer under the high ball, he's able to make more metres coming out of defence than Connor and whilst I think he could do more regards on the goal line defence I feel he's able to make tackles more so than Connor ever will able to do.
Yes connor hs some advantages in attack but we lose some of his guile by moving him FROM (not to) centre, with a differing coach Shaul could have had a shout at changing how he fitted into the attacking line and our ability to get the ball to the backs with more space and not always reliant on a kick from Sneyd could have negated some of Shauls' previous limitations. And whilst that limitation is frustrating it's not a massive part of the equation as to why we fail in the opposing 20 is it?

You can't now make a direct comparison going forward of Connor at FB to Shaul in a team that was disorganised, and oft imbalanced, because we have a 6 who is quality, should give us real impetuous in attack (and not too shabby in defence either from what I've seen) will hopefully play more games than the outgoing 6 and a coach who is going to do the 'small' things and improve core skills/understanding of what is required.
Will Connor do well at FB, very likely, but to slander Shaul when he's only ever been under a coach with no clue regards core skills, no grasp of how backs should play (Lineham stated this after he left and worked under Hodgson) and latterly in a team getting record wallopings is massively unfair!

Shaul is over rated, simple.

no hes not.simple