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| It's FC Voices I think you're alluding to, Its over 5 years since I was involved with them so not sure what they do these days but they are on twitter and FACEBOOK if you want to contact them.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"It's FC Voices I think you're alluding to, Its over 5 years since I was involved with them so not sure what they do these days but they are on twitter and FACEBOOK if you want to contact them.'"
That's him!
Thanks Wilf, but unfortunately I don't do Facebook or Twitter or any other social media thingy :>icon_wink.gif
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| Pure guesswork, but walk-ups at home games is around 2k, so 10 home games still to play adds up to about £400k.
Then there's the cup. Serious money going missing at the moment, even with the players and staff taking paycuts of up to 35%.
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| Just find out how much Pearson tried getting a loan for, then set up a fund we can donate to and try and reach the loan amount
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| Quote ="ccs"Pure guesswork, but walk-ups at home games is around 2k, so 10 home games still to play adds up to about £400k.
Then there's the cup. Serious money going missing at the moment, even with the players and staff taking paycuts of up to 35%.'"
How much of that would you think is profit (after ground rent) to pay salary and other ongoing expense?
To be of any real help, I was reckoning that we would be looking at needing around 1000 fans to contribute £100 each.
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| Been thinking about this all weekend, as I feel the club could really suffer for yrs to come.
If every pass holder donated £20 payable in 2 payments, for instance one now and one in July.
This would give a potential pot of £160k which would help the club massively, and in return the club could honour this by reducing the price of next yr season passes
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| Quote ="lingys"Been thinking about this all weekend, as I feel the club could really suffer for yrs to come.
If every pass holder donated £20 payable in 2 payments, for instance one now and one in July.
This would give a potential pot of £160k which would help the club massively, and in return the club could honour this by reducing the price of next yr season passes'"
That would be the equivalent of a loan, which is obviously what AP has been trying to secure, but I reckon the club needs addition funding which doesn't add to the existing debt - remember AP said he had invested heavily in this seasons squad. A loan would be fine if the income streams came back to normal pretty soon, but I can't see that happening for a long time.
I wonder how many people wouldn't "risk" attending games next season, if a vaccine isn't available for at least another year.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I think if people reflected on what they would normally be spending each week following the club it could be worthwhile. All adds up, £5 Walton Street car park, £2.50 for a coffee in the stadium, snacks, beer fuel, Half time draw tickets, Away game tickets & travel..obviously merchandise is still available but might be worth thinking about if low cost to administer.'"
Whilst I agree that people are saving on these outgoings, many of us have been Furloughed and therefore these savings are helping massively in keeping our depleted income stable. The clubs aren't the only ones worried about the future and whilst I'm not on the breadline by any stretch of the imagination, yet, there will be many many fans that will be worried about what the next few months hold financially because how many of our own working companies will survive this?
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| Well cant FC voices set up a crowd funder or whatever its called and fans just donate what they can?
Nobodys forcing people to donate. Some may donate a large amount some a small amount, some none at all, i dont get these dithery posts if you cant afford too simply dont
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| Whilst I appreciate that money is tight for many people at the moment, I believe about 8500 of us were committed enough to the club, to purchase season passes.
If it gets to the stage where we need to take action, then I'm sure many of that number will be committed enough to donate a small sum to ensure that they get to use that pass again.
I definitely would.
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| Quote ="Large Paws"Whilst I appreciate that money is tight for many people at the moment, I believe about 8500 of us were committed enough to the club, to purchase season passes.
If it gets to the stage where we need to take action, then I'm sure many of that number will be committed enough to donate a small sum to ensure that they get to use that pass again.
I definitely would.'"
I hope so. It will be a tricky one to position with the fans but hopefully most will have a bit of discretionary income available for non essentials they could spare if it meant the club could survive rather than not. Worry is the scale of the requirement could be significant.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I hope so. It will be a tricky one to position with the fans but hopefully most will have a bit of discretionary income available for non essentials they could spare if it meant the club could survive rather than not. Worry is the scale of the requirement could be significant.'"
Absolutely, but with a very modest contribution from all members, a reasonably large sum would be achievable.
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| Sunak unveils 100% state-backed loans for small firms
[urlhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52445988[/url
Quote Small firms are to get access to 100% taxpayer-backed loans after they raised concerns about slow access to existing coronavirus rescue schemes.
Chancellor Rishi Sunak told the House of Commons the scheme would start next week, offering firms loans up to £50,000 within days of applying.
It aims to unlock a backlog of credit checks by banks amid fears many small firms could fold before getting loans.
The scheme requires filling in a two-page self-certification form online.
The loan terms mean that no capital or interest repayments will be due for one year. Instead, the government will pay the interest for the first 12 months.'"
I don't know if this changes anything for AP, but I think it would help a bit
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| I would imagine his loan application would have been for at least £250k,maybe more.
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| I wouldn’t want a season pass refund either.Michael Carter said in Forty20 tonight that pass refunds would be difficult to manage
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| Reading today’s HDM , Pearson is at it again . Not very helpful comments.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Reading today’s HDM , Pearson is at it again . Not very helpful comments.'" I agree peoples lives are more important than any sport
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| Quote ="Large Paws"Absolutely, but with a very modest contribution from all members, a reasonably large sum would be achievable.'"
I agree, with our fan base we should be able to raise a substantial amount.
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| The thing in our favour is our fanbase. Not just now, but whatever we face in the future.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"The thing in our favour is our fanbase. Not just now, but whatever we face in the future.'"
Yes , we need to see what unfolds in the next few weeks .
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| Hopefully we shall be on a downward curve in say 5/6 weeks time.When and if fans are allowed to attend,all fans should at least be made to wear face masks
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| The Tories realise their loans to small businesses has failed and now covering 100% of all loans but banks remain the vehicle to get the money. As this article states deeply flawed.
Richard Taylor
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Edinburgh Group Coordinator and Positive Money Non-Executive Director
Money for Nothing: 100% State Backed Loans
I'm sure most of you will have seen the announcement that the Govt will now take on 100% of the risk of the CBILS loans to small businesses. By and large, banks have spectacularly failed in advancing loans to small businesses and I'm sure much damage as occurred as a result. Maybe that's because they don't have any real pedigree in making any loans to small businesses since they seem more interested in loaning against property instead, The whole idea of using banks as the transmission mechanism to get money (as loans) into the economy seems deeply flawed.
So now the chancellor has fixed it by offering 100% state guarantee of the loan, whilst paying (the no doubt exorbitant) interest and probably arrangement fees to the banks for the first year. So this is nothing more than a gravy train for the banks with no risk to their shareholders. The Govt can borrow at historically low rates (or choose to monetise if that's your preference) to fund the businesses directly, but we have this bankers subsidy scheme instead,
Small firms to get 100%-taxpayer-backed loans
Small firms are to get access to 100% taxpayer-backed loans after they raised concerns about
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| France has banned all sporting events, including behind closed doors, until September.
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| I honestly cant see how the season can restart - I think its game over for this season and longer term i think the game is on a knife edge for survival
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