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| Quote ="fc23"not really is it you cannot ever compare Jamie peacock to gaz ellis one was a decent super league player were as ellis was world class and will still inspire the players around him just with his presence on the field a true leader and still will be (plus he,s better than out else we have at the moment) here,s hoping'"
Yep, 9 super league title winner, 4 challenge cup medals, world club challenge winner an 11 times dream team player......But just decent
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| The club should be totally embarrassed by the need to bring a 37yr old out of a 2 year retirement because the retention and recruitment in the off season was a complete shambles!
We knew Green and Bowden would miss the first few months and neither are really top drawer anyway. Did we really expect Taylor to carry the rest of the pack in every single game and never miss a match! The first time he is not available we suddenly realise what most fans have said for six months ..our forwards ain't good enough and resort to asking Ellis to try bale us out!
Good luck to Ellis on Sunday and I'll be cheering him on but serious questions need to be asked of who is responsible for this fiasco. Is James Clark up to the job if he's in Motu's shoes now? The club seem to have taken the fans for fools this season as it's looking like a write off already. We were told the grand plan moving forward was no wholesale changes in one go but already next season we are looking at a massive upheaval with Manu, Mini, Paea, Kelly, Talanoa, Washbrook plus more likely to go. WTF is going on?
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| First we're told Manu, Mini, Paea, Talanoa, Washbrook weren't worth keeping, now we're told "we are looking at a massive upheaval".
ps Kelly contracted for 2020.
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| Upheaval in terms of numbers of turnover in personel, nor in terms of quality.
Losing a couple of players and bringing in a couple every close season is one thing, but wholesale changes of half a dozen or more is quite another!
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| bienek to batley to give room on the cap for ellis and the new winger. Does that mean he's there for the season now the same as when hadley was farmed out to wakefield? Doesn;t ellis' full salary now count on the cap?
The club is a shambles
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"bienek to batley to give room on the cap for ellis and the new winger. Does that mean he's there for the season now the same as when hadley was farmed out to wakefield? Doesn;t ellis' full salary now count on the cap?
The club is a shambles'"
That's what I thought. Ellis's salary must count on the cap, otherwise every club could appoint a recently retired player as a coach and play him if needed?
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| Schofield was right
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| about what?
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| Quote ="Rubyred1"Yep, 9 super league title winner, 4 challenge cup medals, world club challenge winner an 11 times dream team player......But just decent
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yeah decent if he had been world class he would have gone over to the nrl to challenge himself against the very best as all the top players do
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"bienek to batley to give room on the cap for ellis and the new winger. Does that mean he's there for the season now the same as when hadley was farmed out to wakefield? Doesn;t ellis' full salary now count on the cap?
The club is a shambles'"
I think you will also find we now send two on long term loan to Doncaster to free up a little more cap.
Just what was the point of signing four average players so we can operate a reserve squad when we are so tight on the cap and we will play a match every two weeks at best against poor opposition.Wakefield is the only other Super League team to have a reserve squad but apart from two or three players they fielded young kids so its hardly a tough game.
The deal with Batley to loan Bienek was done weeks ago so now he is fit to play for them thats why we are only now able to sign Ratu.
I agree with you the club at the moment is a shambles.
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| What a treat for us for Gaz to put our shirt on and represent us again, we're gonna sh! t on the pies, can't wait until Sunday. Let's get it on.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Schofield was right'"
All s can be right sometimes, even you
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| Quote ="Isaiah"All s can be right sometimes, even you'"
That’s pretty strong
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| Quote ="Rubyred1"Yep, 9 super league title winner, 4 challenge cup medals, world club challenge winner an 11 times dream team player......But just decent
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Like him or not Peacock is right up there with the best forwards of the SL era. It's a shame he never tested himself in the NRL because like Ellis he would have been outstanding and shown what a world class player he was.
Rubyred you usually come out with a load of wind up tosh but on this occasion you are right!
Don't make a habit of it.
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| Quote ="fc23"yeah decent if he had been world class he would have gone over to the nrl to challenge himself against the very best as all the top players do'"
Sculthorpe, Farrell and Cunningham didn't.
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| Just backed us at 3/1.
I can feel it.
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| Right up your street
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| Quote ="hull2524"Right up your street'"
No, just right
But if your happy with 13 losses in a row, no recruitment, a squad ruined by a one trick pony coach, having to bring a 37 year old player back who retired eighteen months ago, dwindling crouds and a potential bottom four finish then i gues thats right up your street
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"That’s pretty strong'"
Its also very accurate!!
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"No, just right
But if your happy with 13 losses in a row, no recruitment, a squad ruined by a one trick pony coach, having to bring a 37 year old player back who retired eighteen months ago, dwindling crouds and a potential bottom four finish then i gues thats right up your street'"
INOUT never said I was happy. But I try to see a small light at the end of the tunnel. Tell me have you ever and I mean ever had any positive thing to say about us ? Most of the time the only time your on here is to moan. No doubt when we start to win you will disappear.
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| It's all about taking the rough with the smooth, the good and the bad times, innit?
You're either a whining, moaning, rattle out of the prammer, or a hang on in there, get behinder, things will turn a round, sooner or laterer.
They nearly always do.
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| Quote ="hull2524"INOUT never said I was happy. But I try to see a small light at the end of the tunnel. Tell me have you ever and I mean ever had any positive thing to say about us ? Most of the time the only time your on here is to moan. No doubt when we start to win you will disappear.'"
Absolute rubbish - ive said many positive things about FC but unfortunately our performances are generally pathetic and i say it as i see it rather than glossing over dross - this has been going on much of the 38 years ive been a supporter - every time we seem to be getting there it falls apart and ive become more vocal again because the club have gone and fect it up all yet again - all momentum gained over the last few years thrown in the bin by an inept coaching team.
I was reading through the 'who is bigger, FC or Warrington thread on the VT and lots of opposition fans can see it with most including Wolves fans saying we are the bigger club but continual joke coaching appointments and mismanagement have kept us mid table also rans - a lot think we should be as big as Leeds, Wigan and Saints and that is what i want - an FC team to finally be as good as most opposition fans think we should be and not some joke of rugby league
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Absolute rubbish - ive said many positive things about FC but unfortunately our performances are generally pathetic and i say it as i see it rather than glossing over dross - this has been going on much of the 38 years ive been a supporter - every time we seem to be getting there it falls apart and ive become more vocal again because the club have gone and fect it up all yet again - [uall momentum gained over the last few years thrown in the bin by an inept coaching team[/u.
I was reading through the 'who is bigger, FC or Warrington thread on the VT and lots of opposition fans can see it with most including Wolves fans saying we are the bigger club but continual joke coaching appointments and mismanagement have kept us mid table also rans - a lot think we should be as big as Leeds, Wigan and Saints and that is what i want - an FC team to finally be as good as most opposition fans think we should be and not some joke of rugby league'"
Who was responsible for that momentum then?
You, your son and daughter seemed very happy watching us lift the cup at Wembley not so very long ago.
Very generous with your plaudits given to our coach if I remember correctly.
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| Leave it mate. He'll go as soon as we get winning
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