Quote ="Stanley Unwin"Welcome back Joe! www.hullfc.com/news/2018-04-20-h ... cond-spell'" hope he proves me wrong, got to trust Lee and Ellis, getting a player back that you sold for £150K is worth a punt I guess.

Quote ="Stanley Unwin"Welcome back Joe! www.hullfc.com/news/2018-04-20-h ... cond-spell'" hope he proves me wrong, got to trust Lee and Ellis, getting a player back that you sold for £150K is worth a punt I guess.

To the uninitiated it will look like good business indeed. Sell a player that is valued at £150,000 farm him out for two years and get him back for free on a quarter of the wage that he was on when he left!

This thread reminds me of the one when we signed albert Kelly on the same deal.

Short term contract ; no lose scenario for hull.

It wouldn't surprise me if the next announcement is Abdull has signed for Rovers.

Very disappointing if it happens.

Absolutely. I have no issue with Westerman coming back if Radford thinks its the right thing. Anyone can see that he has an astute eye for signings and getting the best from them. He certainly won't stand for any nonsense and neither will the other players I reckon. Interesting times...

Not too sure about this one. Since he's been away I can't say we've missed him too much



I just used to think he tried too much, and ended up getting in our HB way most of the time. But, the people in charge have got more right than wrong recently.

I've also got a horrible feeling that he's a replacment for Mini or Manu, which would be a massive step down. If he's going to replace anyone then I hope it's Washy.

Next year a back row of: New Signing, Manu, Hadley and Westerman on the bench. Then you've got Lane, Turgut and Downs behind them

It would be a shame yes, as he's a local lad, but realistically where does he currently fit?

Kelly is the incumbent stand-off, and Connor is his replacement and he is better than Abdul. Loose forward yes, but we don't tend to play that style.

Westerman will be a replacement for Minicello should he prove his worth I think.

Lee has done very little wrong, we need more ideas in attack, but back to back CC's suggest that isn't a huge issue. Qiestion now is where Connor and Griffin play, unless we know (the club) that Kelly is going...


as you say, interesting times!

Sounds a decent scenario.
Shape up or he'll be shipped out.
Said it would take a few weeks to get him in condition.


Will have to leave the ale & pies alone if he wants to be around next year.

Happier that its only til the end of the season with an option to extend. Pressure is then on him to perform

If you look at his stats last time he was here. He was second and third in tackles made in 14 and 15. This year our defence has been way off - scoring hasn't been a problem, but defensively we are conceding lots of points. He will help shore up our defence if he keeps his workrate up in that way. On rotation with Hadley it gives us two different styles of play - or with both in the back row gives us two varied styles of attack.

Give the guy a chance - he is a solid experienced player who we have made 150k out of and now pay him less than 2 years ago.

Probably means that we can sell Abdul to the highest bidder and recover a fee - as a contracted player who is under 24, we are entitled to a fee to cover his development as a minimum. Can see Wakey being interested - if as rumoured they have tried to flash the cash at Westerman.

happy with that, welcome back joe

Reading that article, think he's definitely been brought in to play 13 . Short deal at least which I'm happy about. Good luck joe

1865 will be jizzing in his sock as we speak

We need another forward and without a non fed spot available we wouldn't likely have picked up anyone better without paying a fee and even then the other club has to want to sell.

Good move IMO. I thought he copped some unfair flak when with us before and he's a hard worker with a decent engine on him. He was always well up on the number of tackles and he's a big unit so if we use him correctly he'll certainly add something. I'd prefer to see him used wide out rather than in hadley's current ball playing role but hopefully he's jrer to work hard as he's getting near to last chance saloon if he's going to realise his undoubted talent.

As for abdul, he has some talent but doesn't have the speed for a half back or the physique for back row in a side with aspirations of top 4. i hope he goes to rovers if he does leave and that he does well there

It's is last tackle stupid penalties he gives away that destroys me about him , cut them out and stupid big hit miss tackles he attempts and sticks to the simple stuff done well, he could do ok

I heard That Washy has a new one year deal on half money with a place on the coaching staff for 2020. Apparently Radders was not in favour but him and Lasty had a few heated words and this was the end result. Obviously I wasn't in the room at the time. It's just what I've been told. I think Mini could be on his way. What is he, 36?

I find it hard to believe radford would re sign a player he didn't want just because andy last did want him.

I thought mini had a really strong running game last night but remains to be seen if he can stay fit. Certainly looks in better shape than many players younger than him

He also clocked off on occasion but I think a lot of that was fatigue as he generally played the full 80. Needs to play wide out for me where he could be really good but I suspect he'll play down the middle and rotate with hadley

Rather have mini in the coaching set up

Yeh I do to, just need to give him simple instructions , run hard , tackle hard , look for an off load , I don't want to see him with ball in hand in set plays to often , tried and tested , he's not good enough

Can't disagree with you Jake regarding Mini's form. Like Ellis, a consummate professional. As you say, keeping him fit is the key. I would imagine there's a little more to it but it's good to know that they have such a strong working relationship. Sometimes at the top you need a strong right hand man and to be able to concede the odd point if it's the right thing to do.

He's not going to want to hang around here though. he'll go back to oz and get a job easily

Can't blame him, hull or the Gold Coast hmm let me think !

He needs to be told to run for the posts and not appoint himself as first receiver on every play. Just hope Radders can manage him well enough to get him fitting in with our style.

Two significant benefits to him coming back are he was always a vocal presence in the pack which we seem to be missing when Taylor is off/blowing.

Second is his absolutely massive boot, although I'm not sure he'd be much better than Connor at goal kicking.