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| Quote ="HFC Boy"If Rovers get promoted he will stay with them , for a fee to us .
If not back to us . Already agreed by both Clubs .'"
Why would we agree to that?
Either we want him or we don't and whatever league they are in shouldn't be a factor?
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| Quote ="davey37"Why would we agree to that?
Either we want him or we don't and whatever league they are in shouldn't be a factor?'"
It could just reflect the player's preference. You're happy to sell, but he only wants that move if Rovers are back in SL.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"It could just reflect the player's preference. You're happy to sell, but he only wants that move if Rovers are back in SL.'"
Even Radford wants him or he doesn't it wouldn't be dependent on Rovers coming up as they could just transfer list him and I'm sure that another club in SL would look to sign him.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Even Radford wants him or he doesn't it wouldn't be dependent on Rovers coming up as they could just transfer list him and I'm sure that another club in SL would look to sign him.'"
Exactly. If we are happy to sell then that suggests we don't want him?
Then why has he recently signed a new contract?
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| Quote ="davey37"Exactly. If we are happy to sell then that suggests we don't want him?
Then why has he recently signed a new contract?'"
Then we can get a fee for him if he decides to stay at Rovers, if not we have a player who will have had a full years run without being dropped for others ineffectiveness elsewhere so could do a job for us in place of a fair few positions. However in his (now) preferred position that would mean a change in our tactics somewhat. You only have to see how Westerman flourished last season in a more ball handling role than he'd had of recent times.
IF we can change that and have a 13 a la SOL then I think that would benefit us immensely, it also gives us a deep field kicker, back up goal kicker and he'll still only be turning 22 at the beginning of next season.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Even Radford wants him or he doesn't it wouldn't be dependent on Rovers coming up as they could just transfer list him and I'm sure that another club in SL would look to sign him.'"
It’s all hypothetical, but the player has a contract with you so has a big say in decisions affecting his future. The only way it could come down to a simple ‘Radford doesn’t want him, so we can get rid.’ is if Hull pay up his contract, denying him the single option of staying at Hull.
There are plenty of reasons why Hull might not be able to dispose of him any way they please (especially for a fee! He’s been good for us and has potential, but it is ‘good’ rather than ‘brilliant’, and until Leigh, it was only against Championship opposition). If we’re interested, he might not fancy another season at this level if we don’t get up. If Salford, for example, were interested he might not fancy the move or commute.
I appreciate that staying at a club that doesn’t particularly want wouldn’t be ideal, but with a contract you can bide your time to see if the wind changes, or leave on terms that might suit you better.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Then we can get a fee for him if he decides to stay at Rovers, if not we have a player who will have had a full years run without being dropped for others ineffectiveness elsewhere so could do a job for us in place of a fair few positions. However in his (now) preferred position that would mean a change in our tactics somewhat. You only have to see how Westerman flourished last season in a more ball handling role than he'd had of recent times.
IF we can change that and have a 13 a la SOL then I think that would benefit us immensely, it also gives us a deep field kicker, back up goal kicker and he'll still only be turning 22 at the beginning of next season.'"
I agree. We struggle at times in attack due to only having two pivots in the side. Shaul [ishould[/i be that third pivot when chiming into the line, but he just doesn't have the hands/skills to execute plays, chucking Abdull in there would help, and as you say he provides that other kicking option.
My question mark over him at 13 is more around the other facets a 13 needs to have. In attack, yes, it's a no-brainer, but does he have the defensive capabilities and fitness to defend in the middles for most of a game, and can he make some hard yards in our own half when needed? I'm not sure at the moment, but he does have youth on his side.
That's why Sean O'Loughlin is so good, because he has both of those sides to his game, to a pretty high standard, but unfortunately there's not many players of his type around.
It's the defence and go forward elements we'll be losing when Ellis retires. I'm not holding Abdull to Ellis' high standards by any means, but we have to think about trying to replace those things too, as well as improving the attack.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"It’s all hypothetical, but the player has a contract with you so has a big say in decisions affecting his future. The only way it could come down to a simple ‘Radford doesn’t want him, so we can get rid.’ is if Hull pay up his contract, denying him the single option of staying at Hull.
There are plenty of reasons why Hull might not be able to dispose of him any way they please (especially for a fee! He’s been good for us and has potential, but it is ‘good’ rather than ‘brilliant’, and until Leigh, it was only against Championship opposition). If we’re interested, he might not fancy another season at this level if we don’t get up. If Salford, for example, were interested he might not fancy the move or commute.
I appreciate that staying at a club that doesn’t particularly want wouldn’t be ideal, but with a contract you can bide your time to see if the wind changes, or leave on terms that might suit you better.'"
Its all conjecture, he is signed for FC and on loan to KR, they are the only facts we have.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Its all conjecture, he is signed for FC and on loan to KR, they are the only facts we have.'"
Being sensible on this forum, isn't a trait often seen.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Being sensible on this forum, isn't a trait often seen.'"
I just get fed up with people "in the know" who just post opinion as "fact", whatever anyone earns is down to them, its their own career, wether they play sport or work in B&M bargains.
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| MOM today couple of tries stand out player on the pitch getting better every week
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"MOM today couple of tries stand out player on the pitch getting better every week'"
Good, hopefully a spell in the middle 8's and he'll be up to speed when he's back with us next year
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Good, hopefully a spell in the middle 8's and he'll be up to speed when he's back with us next year'"
As long as he helps get us back in SL and probably his best game for us I'd say was against Leigh were he controlled it
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Good, hopefully a spell in the middle 8's and he'll be up to speed when he's back with us next year'"
Deal done for him to go to Rovers permanently; Westmorland teeing it up as a bigger coup than a SL team getting Barba
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| Strangely he got criticisized on the radio commentary for one of his tries. The pass was on, apparently, but he decided to dummy and go himself. Four points is four points in my book, but I'm curious to see what they were on about.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Deal done for him to go to Rovers permanently; Westmorland teeing it up as a bigger coup than a SL team getting Barba
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The bit about the deal been done could be right .
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Deal done for him to go to Rovers permanently; Westmorland teeing it up as a bigger coup than a SL team getting Barba
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Doesn't really say that in the article. Unless Ive missed something...
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Strangely he got criticisized on the radio commentary for one of his tries. The pass was on, apparently, but he decided to dummy and go himself. Four points is four points in my book, but I'm curious to see what they were on about.'"
It was a try that against a better side he wouldn't have scored. I said the same at the game, fair play he scored it and maybe in a better game he'd pass
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| Playing well tonight at Blackpool .
Shame to lose him , especially as we need a halfback with Sneyd's injury .
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Playing well tonight at Blackpool .
Shame to lose him , especially as we need a halfback with Sneyd's injury .'"
Watched the game after today's FA Cup Final and thought Abdull was excellent. Lost some weight but if he lost a bit more he'd be a formidable loose forward. Just the kind of additional ball player we need.
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| Quote ="Lang Park"Watched the game after today's FA Cup Final and thought Abdull was excellent. Lost some weight but if he lost a bit more he'd be a formidable loose forward. Just the kind of additional ball player we need.'"
Have seen him a couple of times recently in matches and he has certainly trimmed up. A season under Sheens will do him a world of good.
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| So he's defo staying at rovers then ? Or just rumour?
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| A dobbin fan at work claims that Abdul wants to stay with them if they make it back to Super League; partner is from a dobbin family (which is where this info comes from) and he hasn't really signed a contract extension at Hull. Make of that what you will. Personally I'm not convinced, starting with the chairman and filtering downwards statements from the dobbin community often show a wide variance with the truth.
Deserved MOM for Abdul yesterday but the dobbins pack remains a terribly week powder puff rabble and if they think that it can back up each week in the middle 8's then they could be in for a reality check.
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| the dobbins pack remains a terribly week powder puff rabble and if they think that it can back up each week in the middle 8's then they could be in for a reality check....Takes one to know one
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