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| So to sign Kelly we would have to let Frank go to stay under the cap, is that correct?
It's just that AP didn't mention having to let a big name go with respect to making more signings.
Or we have cap space to sign Kelly without shipping another player out?
Carlos must be wondering what the hell is going on...
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Carlos must be wondering what the hell is going on...'"
Are you party to what conversations have been had with him then?
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"So to sign Kelly we would have to let Frank go to stay under the cap, is that correct?
It's just that AP didn't mention having to let a big name go with respect to making more signings.
Or we have cap space to sign Kelly without shipping another player out?
Carlos must be wondering what the hell is going on...'"
No, he would be released so we have a quota spot, not salary cap.
I would release Michaels not Pritchard
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| Quote ="weaver93"Or... Ken Sio ....'"
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| Would like to congratulate Albert Kelly on becoming super talented, the type of player we need, a maverick, a risk worth taking, a superb talent and nobel peace prize winner especially considering how he was previously fat, useless, lazy, damaged, a risk not worth taking and i remember him getting called cancerous to the club by some on these boards.
A transformation only matched by Lee Radfords eye watering ability to go from pub landlord to rugby genius. You lot do make me laugh at times.
FWIW - Truly is a great player, as most KR fans will agree. He brought excitement to Craven Park especially in 2015 that ive not seen before. However, the make up of a man is what happens when chips are down and this guy is not somebody i would want to go into battle with. Gareth Ellis has more professionalism in his right achilles then Kelly. If he's not your main guy which he won't be i imagine, then he could do well. I fully expect him to self implode again however especially if he does not play week in week out, then our blackpool sun baked faces from across t'river will rightly say we told you so.
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| Quote ="mean_machine"Would like to congratulate Albert Kelly on becoming super talented, the type of player we need, a maverick, a risk worth taking, a superb talent and nobel peace prize winner especially considering how he was previously fat, useless, lazy, damaged, a risk not worth taking and i remember him getting called cancerous to the club by some on these boards.
A transformation only matched by Lee Radfords eye watering ability to go from pub landlord to rugby genius. You lot do make me laugh at times.
FWIW - Truly is a great player, as most KR fans will agree. He brought excitement to Craven Park especially in 2015 that ive not seen before. However, the make up of a man is what happens when chips are down and this guy is not somebody i would want to go into battle with. Gareth Ellis has more professionalism in his right achilles then Kelly. If he's not your main guy which he won't be i imagine, then he could do well. I fully expect him to self implode again however especially if he does not play week in week out, then our blackpool sun baked faces from across t'river will rightly say we told you so.'"
Not like a Rovers fan to embellish what is said on this forum...you lot do make me laugh at times.
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| So, you genuinely believe none of them things got said about Albert Kelly when he played for KR?
Come on mate, do us all a favour and let's not pretend there isn't a humorous bit of irony about you signing a player you all slagged off something rotten, and even better then that now all build him up. It's a classic FC-ism, exhibit A - Lee Radford.
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| Quote ="mean_machine"Would like to congratulate Albert Kelly on becoming super talented, the type of player we need, a maverick, a risk worth taking, a superb talent and nobel peace prize winner especially considering how he was previously fat, useless, lazy, damaged, a risk not worth taking and i remember him getting called cancerous to the club by some on these boards.
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You Dobbins do make me laugh with your exaggeration
I am sure if we look at any teams forum we would see similar contrasting views depending on whether a player is staying or leaving.
It seems quite clear that IF we are getting the 2015 Kelly he will be a great signing but IF 2016 version then we will be very disappointed.
However, at least we appear to be adding incentives and clauses in his contract that protect us somewhat.
If the rumour of him having already met with Radders and some senior players is true then he would appear keen to come.
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| A bit like Paul Cooke eh
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| Quote ="mean_machine"So, you genuinely believe none of them things got said about Albert Kelly when he played for KR?
Come on mate, do us all a favour and let's not pretend there isn't a humorous bit of irony about you signing a player you all slagged off something rotten, and even better then that now all build him up. It's a classic FC-ism, exhibit A - Lee Radford.'"
There you go again.
A few FC fans post something on a forum and suddenly they are the views of ALL FC fans everywhere
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| everyone getting there nickers in a twist over someone we havnt even signed yet, IF he does sign lets give him a chance, yes it is a bit of a gamble but imo there is not many players with his talent of which we have been screaming about having for years, we have lacked a maverick half for years and imo he on his day is one of the best, Gamble yes,Worth taking Yes
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| As a general consensus of opinions on this board both Albert Kelly and Lee Radford got slated. Will be the odd exception but as a whole I am vindicated in saying as such.
Of course he is keen to come, he's currently unemployed.
I hope it works out for him, RL needs more creative players and flashes of brilliance as opposed to drop offs and kicking games. If he could have the right mentality I'd have him above Sneyd. But there is a very slim chance of that. I hope Radford doesn't try and coach it out of him either as I suspect he doesn't have the temperament to control a game, or even play to a game plan.
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| The blokes got obvious talent, brings excitement & unpredictability. Whilst we had our best year for a long time last year the club have obviously identified that an 'off the cuff' type player would compliment the solid structure we already have. Players like Kelly, Chase etc are a dying breed. If we'd signed him this time last year Rovers fans would have been up in arms.
Playing for us behind our strong pack I think we'll see the very best of him. I'd be interested to see what odds you could get on him being MOS next year.
From the sounds of it the club are tailoring the contract in their favour. The much reduced wage then he was on at Rovers makes it sound like we could possibly be getting an absolute bargain. I aren't privvy to the wage he'll be on but from the sounds of it we'd be very hard pushed to get such a talented player for the same money we'll be paying him.
If your an FC fan and against us signing Kelly then you can have no complaints next season when we look lost of ideas once we get into the opponents 20m zone.
We need a halfback to keep progressing & keep challenging, he fits the bill. I can't see how we can lose with this signing to be honest. The culture at the club has now been established I very much doubt one player could disrupt that with any significance & if he doesn't tow the line i'm sure he'll be gone. I'm certain he is under no illusion to that fact too.
If someone can name another halfback in the world we can get the same value for money from as we'll potentially get from Kelly I'd be amazed. He's the type of player young kids love to watch & if he can make us a more enterprising team I couldn't care less if he's a loose cannon. Not all players can be super professional 100% of the time.
Some players love rugby & its their life, they train hard & continually look to improve. Some players aren't the most talented but their dedication allows them to reach the top.
On the other hand you get some players whom are just naturally gifted & even if they don't train the house down they can still change a game in a second.
We can't have a squad full of robots, every great team has characters & it also has players whom can just turn it on. These players quite often bring a sense of joviality to the training ground due to their sometimes lack-lustre approach. The key is to man-manage these players correctly & get the best out of them. If Kelly is to become a success at Hull it will be down to the coaching staff at Hull being able to ensure that they manage the person as much as the player.
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| Bombers Tash has it spot on
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| If fit and his attitude is right, we'd have a top player.
Playing alongside players like Ellis, Taylor, Sneyd, Houghton, Manu, Mini & Fonua would surely give him the motivation to perform vs playing alongside Matty Marsh and the rest of those jokers.
A contract with conditions in our favours & a much lower salary, with plenty of performances based incentives for Kelly would be ideal. I've love to see him running around in a B&W shirt.
Rovers fans will of course be warning us from him, telling us he's this and that, that'll at some point he'll mess up and go back to his old ways. Well, they were saying the same about Wattsy and 4 years later all is well.
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| If Motu has identified a player that he thinks can improve the team whoever it is then I am not going to complain, the last couple of years all his signings have improved the team both on and off the field.
If i remember rightly when Watts signed for us we had the same scenario and look how he turned out, a much more professional approach with FC will see the best of kelly I have no doubt and anyway anyone really think Radford/Ellis/Mini/Houghton will let one player disrupt the team. I think not now.
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| Plus Mini will know him from Gold Coast.
They would have taken his views on board.
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| Quote ="Bomber's tash"The blokes got obvious talent, brings excitement & unpredictability. Whilst we had our best year for a long time last year the club have obviously identified that an 'off the cuff' type player would compliment the solid structure we already have. Players like Kelly, Chase etc are a dying breed. If we'd signed him this time last year Rovers fans would have been up in arms.
Playing for us behind our strong pack I think we'll see the very best of him. I'd be interested to see what odds you could get on him being MOS next year.
From the sounds of it the club are tailoring the contract in their favour. The much reduced wage then he was on at Rovers makes it sound like we could possibly be getting an absolute bargain. I aren't privvy to the wage he'll be on but from the sounds of it we'd be very hard pushed to get such a talented player for the same money we'll be paying him.
If your an FC fan and against us signing Kelly then you can have no complaints next season when we look lost of ideas once we get into the opponents 20m zone.
We need a halfback to keep progressing & keep challenging, he fits the bill. I can't see how we can lose with this signing to be honest. The culture at the club has now been established I very much doubt one player could disrupt that with any significance & if he doesn't tow the line i'm sure he'll be gone. I'm certain he is under no illusion to that fact too.
If someone can name another halfback in the world we can get the same value for money from as we'll potentially get from Kelly I'd be amazed. He's the type of player young kids love to watch & if he can make us a more enterprising team I couldn't care less if he's a loose cannon. Not all players can be super professional 100% of the time.
Some players love rugby & its their life, they train hard & continually look to improve. Some players aren't the most talented but their dedication allows them to reach the top.
On the other hand you get some players whom are just naturally gifted & even if they don't train the house down they can still change a game in a second.
We can't have a squad full of robots, every great team has characters & it also has players whom can just turn it on. These players quite often bring a sense of joviality to the training ground due to their sometimes lack-lustre approach. The key is to man-manage these players correctly & get the best out of them. If Kelly is to become a success at Hull it will be down to the coaching staff at Hull being able to ensure that they manage the person as much as the player.'"
You've summed it up perfectly I for one hope we can make it happen
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| Quote ="Hullfc-white"www.hulldailymail.co.uk/albert-kelly-s-hull-fc-deal-could-be-done-this-week/story-29853217-detail/story.html'"
The bit about him already training is true at he was spotted running near our training ground on Saturday and was sat with our mr Hatton at craven park at the junior game on Sunday
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| There seems to be a strict regime of due diligence where signings are concerned and so far this has served us well. If the same applies in this case (and there's nothing to suggest otherwise) then this could turn out to be an inspired signing. I 100% trust Motu, Adam and Radders to do what's best for our club.
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| On a low salary he's probably worth a punt and we can kick him out if he doesn't toe the line, however I think some people maybe have watched a different albert kelly to me. He's certainly talented and off the cuff but his stats for the last 2 seasons aren't great and let's not forget he was half back for a side which ended both seasons he was there in the bottom 4. Talented individual, worth a punt at the right price but he's not the messiah
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