The first grand final was'nt until 1998 so not sure what your getting at by saying rl traditionally used play offs to decide champions. The premiership was never that and basically a end of season knock out trophy were you had to finish in the top 8 to be in it but the championship was already awarded ( normally to Wigan in my time ) before that for team that finished top.sorry if misunderstood you but rl being round long before 1998

What Kosh said was that the champions had traditionally been decided by a play-off event, the concept of being crowned champions after being top of the league is a relatively new one, introduced in the early seventies I think. Prior to then, the championship was awarded after an end of season play-off system, similar to now.

Then he's wrong.the grand final was'nt until 1998.before then if you finished top you wad champions like Bradford was before the play offs were introduced. Maybe we've had the play offs in super league for longer than not but r.l wasn't invented in 1998.i like the play offs and wouldn't go back to no play offs but in the history rugby league the play offs are a relatively new concept although they av been around for 17 yrs now

I think you need to do a bit of research before you make yourself look even less informed

Suggest you look at RL history books....

Out of 121 years of rugby league in this country, if you discount the 12 years of county or wartime leagues, there were only 35 years without play-offs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_Foo ... ampionship

Out of 121 years of rugby league in this country, if you discount the 12 years of county or wartime leagues, there were only 35 years without play-offs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_Foo ... ampionship

Half time score: Warrington 16 Huddersfield 14

Final score Warrington 34 Huddersfield 30. Lead changed hands six times.

Doesn't affect our Super 8 fixtures but condemns Huddersfield to bottom just three years after they won the League Leaders Shield.

Doh -homer Simpson style

I'll tell you what watching Salford last night Leeds and Huddersfield of late and with Leigh just bringing in another Aussie for the play offs I wouldn't want to be in Rovers boots just now! In fact I would worry if we were down there its going to be very interesting I think!

and Salford have strengthened with a couple of loan signings, including Luke Burgess :

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I don't see leigh really threatening any of the SL sides. They've signed a bunch of cast offs but that doesn't make them a good team. rovers have an easyish set of fixtures so will be fine. hudds may struggle more than rovers

Edited for accuracy

I'm not sure about that. This is not a spiteful comment, truly, but Rovers are really an ordinary side. There pack is woeful, Albert Kelly can be a gem, when he wants to play. There backs can score tries but defence is rubbish. Liegh last season really hashed it up, I for one don't think they'll approach the middle8's with the same mindset. Hindsight, they say is a good thing???

I have a sneaky feeling for leigh,

How many seasons could we go without a promotion/relegation before we call the middle 8s a PR disaster? Leigh are really taking a run at it.

give it next season, after that i dont see how it works if toronto come up to the championship in 2018

The order the fixtures were played in killed Leigh last year. I think they played 3 sl teams first which knocked the stuffing out of them. Might be different this year if tv doesn't see them as an attractive proposition.

I know

Oh well everyday a school day. Happy to learn something new.