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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Id take him to replace pryce easily, our young 6 and 7s are stil very young , would be class for a couple of seasons'"
I predict Tuimavave will end up replacing Pryce. I believe No 6 is the best position to fully utilise his skills.
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."I predict Tuimavave will end up replacing Pryce. I believe No 6 is the best position to fully utilise his skills.'"
For me, having him at centre keeps the opposition guessing what he's going to do with the ball. He put in a couple of cracking kicks on sat, and also set up a couple of breaks for talanoa. I'd keep him there, based on 3 performances, but things may change.
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| Quote ="Faithful One"For me, having him at centre keeps the opposition guessing what he's going to do with the ball. He put in a couple of cracking kicks on sat, and also set up a couple of breaks for talanoa. I'd keep him there, based on 3 performances, but things may change.'"
I agree. We have seen some great play on that left side and I hope it continues.
Anyway, if we dont bring in Marshall then I'd prefer to see Abdull get a run ahead of Los at 6. And if that doesnt work then HTW and Dean might be the future in that position so give them a try.
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."I predict Tuimavave will end up replacing Pryce. I believe No 6 is the best position to fully utilise his skills.'"
Each to their own opinion, thats fair enough. My opinion is that we have a who has the ability to put fear in to the opposition, can go past players, can put his winger away and has a great step. Why change that by putting him to S/O?
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Each to their own opinion, thats fair enough. My opinion is that we have a Centre who has the ability to put fear in to the opposition, can go past players, can put his winger away and has a great step. Why change that by putting him to S/O?'"
Agree. He's a failed standoff as it stands. At 24 he's not managed to crack it. But currently looks the most dangerous centre in the comp. He looks as I've said before like joel moon. A failed half who's attributes suit centre more. In fact carlos looks more dangerous on his feet.
If it's an option to sign Marshall get it done!! His passing and kicking game would be unreal off the back of this pack
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Each to their own opinion, thats fair enough. My opinion is that we have a Centre who has the ability to put fear in to the opposition, can go past players, can put his winger away and has a great step. Why change that by putting him to S/O?'"
That's my view too.
Even though we've only seen him play at centre three times, we've been crying out for a centre like him for the best part of a decade. The comparisons to Joel Moon when he first moved to centre are fair ones IMO.
It's good too know he can slot in at s/o if needs be, but we'd be daft to move one of our most potent threats out of a position he's getting a lot of success in. That said, it's a long season and things could change.
Would I take Benji Marshall? - yes, in a flash. At the start of the 2017 season he'd be nearly 32, so maybe a 2year deal and 3rd year option would be the most sensible approach. He's a star, a genuine world class player who would have a huge effect on Dean & Wilson and the club as a whole.
Dean & Wilson are still very young, and would be 20 come the start of 2017. I'd like to see both get game time, but next year may be too early to rely on either as first choice halves.
Abdull is the other option, and has proved himself more than capable at 6, but his position in the long-term may be at 13?
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Each to their own opinion, thats fair enough. My opinion is that we have a Centre who has the ability to put fear in to the opposition, can go past players, can put his winger away and has a great step. Why change that by putting him to S/O?'"
That's my view too.
Even though we've only seen him play at centre three times, we've been crying out for a centre like him for the best part of a decade. The comparisons to Joel Moon when he first moved to centre are fair ones IMO.
It's good too know he can slot in at s/o if needs be, but we'd be daft to move one of our most potent threats out of a position he's getting a lot of success in. That said, it's a long season and things could change.
Would I take Benji Marshall? - yes, in a flash. At the start of the 2017 season he'd be nearly 32, so maybe a 2year deal and 3rd year option would be the most sensible approach. He's a star, a genuine world class player who would have a huge effect on Dean & Wilson and the club as a whole.
Dean & Wilson are still very young, and would be 20 come the start of 2017. I'd like to see both get game time, but next year may be too early to rely on either as first choice halves.
Abdull is the other option, and has proved himself more than capable at 6, but his position in the long-term may be at 13?'"
Agree with both, have to say out of all the signings we've made Tuimavave is the stand out because he has performed in that centre role so well. Yes Pritchard & Manu have been great but non of us if we are honest really knew what to expect from Tuimavave.
Radford deserves huge credit for that decision to play him at centre, for me he has touches of Richie Barnett Snr about him and if plays half as well as the Panther did then leave him at Centre.
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Agree. He's a failed standoff as it stands. At 24 he's not managed to crack it. But currently looks the most dangerous centre in the comp. He looks as I've said before like joel moon. A failed half who's attributes suit centre more. In fact carlos looks more dangerous on his feet.
If it's an option to sign Marshall get it done!! His passing and kicking game would be unreal off the back of this pack'"
to keep the recent Bradford bulls comparisons going, he reminds me of shontane hape
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| Quote ="the artist"to keep the recent Bradford bulls comparisons going, he reminds me of shontane hape'"
Don't see that 1 so much. If I was going back a few years I'd compare to Richie Barnet snr. But currently looks very much like moon
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Each to their own opinion, thats fair enough. My opinion is that we have a Centre who has the ability to put fear in to the opposition, can go past players, can put his winger away and has a great step. Why change that by putting him to S/O?'"
My experience of him playing centre comes from watching him play there in the NRL. In particular for Newcastle last season when defensively he was useless and did nothing in attack.
I have watched him since he set the NYC competition alight playing as a No6 alongside Shaun Johnson and also playing for Samoa.
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| I think I'd rather judge Carlos on how he is doing now,rather than a few years ago, in a different league playing with a different coach and players.
I heard bad reports about Talanoa wing play from Steve And Jim from the NRL bins 13, lucky I choose to ignore them.
Seriously though, he may get a chance so let's see how he does before making him our long term 6, we have a lot more options at 6, than centre, so unless something changes I'd leave him there.
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."My experience of him playing centre comes from watching him play there in the NRL. In particular for Newcastle last season when defensively he was useless and did nothing in attack.
I have watched him since he set the NYC competition alight playing as a No6 alongside Shaun Johnson and also playing for Samoa.'"
As I said, everyone's got their opinion. But there are a couple of points
He is no longer playing in the NRL and the early signs are that he is suited to in the ESL.
I can only assume that he played in NYC with Shaun Johnson (established NRL player) a few years ago. I'd also hazard a guess that Chris Thorman (no offence Chris, if you are reading this, but your time ah Hull wasn't your best) would look good playing along side Johnson.
There would be no point moving a player to S/O if the who replaced him were not good enough. This has been proved time and again with Hull spending on halves when our have not been of the standard good enough to open or go past defences.
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."My experience of him playing centre comes from watching him play there in the NRL. In particular for Newcastle last season when defensively he was useless and did nothing in attack.
I have watched him since he set the NYC competition alight playing as a No6 alongside Shaun Johnson and also playing for Samoa.'"
I never remember him playing at centre in the NRL. But after we signed i found highlights of the reserves last year. 1st game I came across although had 6 on his back played centre. Scored 2 set 1 up.
He looks like he's got everything to be an all round threat at centre. Combined with a real spark with his wingman. We've spent nearly 10 yrs finding a real centre. If he continues this yr as hes started then it would be madness to move him. Dean and wilson are more than anything trying to get their bodies up to standard as both small lads. Abdull is ready and waiting. In the market centres are harder to get hold of than halves.
Everything points to carlos being some1 we can plan around in making our attack genuinely scary on the edge
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| I'd rather have Carlos playing centre and using his stand-off skills as an extra pivot-like threat in attack, alongside the halves and hooker, than throw him at stand-off and lose the extra dimension he can give our attack. He's started well so far, keep him as he is.
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| How many has Carlos set up already, no way would you move him. Leeds halves are dire and you wont see them putting Moon there
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| all this talk and its probably all bull about Marshall anyway
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| Quote ="Greavsie"all this talk and its probably all bull about Marshall anyway'"
On the basis its driven by something in League Weekly, that's a fair assessment.
On the basis its driven by something from Dave Parker, in League Weekley, its a virtual certainty
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| Story at the back of the same paper made it sound as though he was only thinking of the move if Cooper Cronk was signing for them
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Don't see that 1 so much. If I was going back a few years I'd compare to Richie Barnet snr. But currently looks very much like moon'"
was thinking not so much in his style, more the ability to get the best out of his winger. vainikolo was a great player but still needed to be given the ball at the right times
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!" But after we signed i found highlights of the reserves last year. 1st game I came across although had 6 on his back played centre. Scored 2 set 1 up'"
I watched every match from late July last year that he played in that was on TV and went to the Grand Final at Parramatta. I recall him playing centre the match after he signed and he scored a try but the team shipped over 50 points and that was his last game at centre. He then played a few games at full back,had an injury and returned to play the finals series at 6. He missed the final because of the birth of his child but played in the GF win.
This was the 3rd occasion that I had been to see him win a trophy as he won in 2010 and 2011 in the NYC competition playing for the NZ Warriors with these latter two being played on Grand Final day. He was MOM in 2010.
I also went to see him play in his debut for Samoa in 2013 when they played Tonga in Penrith.
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| Would be great signing. Doubt many would have had us signing Frank last season (me included) so who knows.
These are the players people will pay to watch. The more the merrier.
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| Have we signed Ryan Brierley (sp) instead?
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Have we signed Ryan Brierley (sp) instead?'"
Played for Leigh today.
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| Quote ="davey37"Played for Leigh today.'"
he'll be a target for next season i would have thought, but a lot of other clubs will be interested
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Have we signed Ryan Brierley (sp) instead?'"
hope not he doesn't look physical enough for super league plus we have some quality kids coming through who I think would be as good as him Marshall I can understand but Brierley ??? narrr
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