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| Quote ="HullFC_1865"do you really want me to waste my time quoting you, and others, making excuses for Lee? seriously'"
You're only saying that because you know you can't. Only one or two posters on here have ever made excuses for Radford and COYH is certainly not one of them.
For reference, not getting your knickers in a knot at every available opportunity does not constitute 'making excuses'.
Quote ="HullFC_1865"there is a village in East Hull missing an idiot called Lee.'"
Classy. The very definition of a Keyboard Warrior.
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| Quote ="bonaire"I assume you are trying to be sarcastic
If you don't like Radford or the club being criticised then reply with a meaningful post.'"
I've put my point across many times both highly critical and supportive. I don't feel the need to trot out the same boring crap on every thread day in and day out like I read on here from the likes of yourself, bumpy and knowledge-free standee. You're as boring as our early season attack structure and tactics. The best thing about winning isn't the 2 points gained it's the fact that you lot go quiet for a week. Hope that means enough for you.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Can you not comprehend English?
Of course they have claimed the squad is stronger, as every coach does.
I've asked you and UllFC where they said Radford inherited a "disaster of a squad and has had to start from nothing".
They didn't, it's just typical of the OTT rubbish posted on here.'"
some of us do have work to attend you know...
Just a few of Adam Pearson interview highlights over the last 12 months:
"At the end of last season I was very disappointed. I didn’t feel the coach (Peter Gentle) had maximised the playing strength at all and we had just given up in the play-offs."
"We have had a number of excuses here at the club in the last couple of years now and we know those excuses have to stop."
"Looking back, transition is exactly what we’ve had because we’ve cleared out a number of players who were brought in by Shaun McRae and Peter Gentle who proved just not to be good enough. That is extremely disappointing and I feel it was almost a wasted two years"
"When I look at the money we wasted on transfer fees for players it does. We let Andy Lynch go when I had just paid a £50,000 transfer fee for him, so there were some strange decisions. There was a large transfer fee and contract for Joe Arundel and players came in on big contracts who just haven’t delivered."
[urlhttp://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Adam-Pearson-Hull-FC-Q-2015-pivotal-year-want-win/story-23056073-detail/story.html[/url
if you're still not convinced he's Pearson on film, first question will do the trick...
[urlhttp://www.hullfclive.tv/interviews/feature-ask-adam/[/url
'Do you regret sacking Peter Gentle?' "No I wish I'd done it earlier really, because obviously Radders is having to sort out quite a lot of the issues he left behind"
Its clear to me in that both interviews are attempts at deflecting blame from himself and Radford by making out that 2012 & 2013 were poor, disappointing years for the club. When the reality is 2012 & 2013 were much better seasons compared to what we had under Agar and last year under Radford. That excuse was already wearing thin back in October 2014 when the HDM interview was given, but for the club to be still trying to paint the same picture in August 2015 is ridiculous IMO. Judging from the mixed opinions on this thread I am far from alone in thinking that.
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| Quote ="UllFC"My patience has ran-out with Gentle. Last season I thought he did a good job considering the injuries we had, and the makeshift squad with players like Tony Martin making up the numbers.
but this season has been an absolute disaster, our worst since 2009 IMO, and not even a CC win should be allowed to cover up how bad the league campaign has been.
His signings have been awful , Arundle & Crooks aren't even making the team, Galea wasn't needed, Ellis has been average (but at least improving) Johnson is a decent squad player but not exactly one that sets Super League alight, only Holdsworth & Miller have been positive additions. Players like Aspinwall, Martin & McGoldrick were dismissed as being fill-in players last season, but we got a lot more out of them than this years signings!
the forwards are too light, and players we previously relied on heavily like Yeaman, Lynch & Whiting are another year older and haven't reached their usual standards.
our attack is not better than the Agar days, and at times it is even worse as we don't have the 'pass it to Manu and hope he knocks 3 players over' tactic to use anymore.
Gentle seems incapable of motivating his team to play 'run of the mill' SL games, we are capable of beating the likes of Wire, Leeds & Catalan....but then the week after lose to Widnes, draw with London etc ...............'"
Not too keen on Gentle either, by the looks of it. Why do you bother??
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| I think the squad is looking good for next year, and I hope LR get's it right as I yearn for some success like everyone else.
I won't be buying a pass though as I'm tired of being let down every year (for the last 7/8 anyway) and I fear LR simply hasn't got the skill set to turn the squad which is good on paper into a team that can challenge for trophies.
Articles like the one in the HDM is just more of the same for me, every year its the same old rhetoric.
I guess there isn't much else they can say though.
I really hope I'm proved wrong next year and LR blossoms into the coach AP thinks he can be, and we can play an entertaining brand of rugby and challenge and compete with the top 4 (I say challenge and compete - not better before anyone jumps on that)
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| Quote ="ccs"Not too keen on Gentle either, by the looks of it. Why do you bother??'"
you went all the way through my history to find that, you stalking me?
I'm also happy to admit with hindsight I was wrong! He wasn't the right coach for us long-term, but how was I to know at the time we'd replace him with Radford!
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| Quote ="UllFC"some of us do have work to attend you know...
Just a few of Adam Pearson interview highlights over the last 12 months:
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So he hasn't really said that Radford inherited a disaster of a squad and has had to start from nothing?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"So he hasn't really said that Radford inherited a disaster of a squad and has had to start from nothing?'"
you know full well I was paraphrasing, anyone with half a brain can see what Pearson is implying with his comments
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| Quote ="UllFC"you went all the way through my history to find that, you stalking me?
I'm also happy to admit with hindsight I was wrong! He wasn't the right coach for us long-term, but how was I to know at the time we'd replace him with Radford!'" It didn't take long, about a minute, knowing full well that I'd find something.
Mr Gentle wasn't so popular in 2013, you're not the only one to mention it.
Anyway, I thought making excuses wasn't allowed?
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| Quote ="ccs"It didn't take long, about a minute, knowing full well that I'd find something.
Mr Gentle wasn't so popular in 2013, you're not the only one to mention it.
Anyway, I thought making excuses wasn't allowed?'"
Still a bit creepy though isn't it, trawling back through 2 years of someone's post history, still if its what you want to do with your Wednesday nights...
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| Quote ="UllFC"Still a bit creepy though isn't it, trawling back through 2 years of someone's post history, still if its what you want to do with your Wednesday nights...'"
But it's OK for you to trawl back for Pearson quotes?
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| So I'll read between the lines, Pearson basically says that Gentles recruitment was poor, can anyone argue with that?
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| Quote ="UllFC"Still a bit creepy though isn't it, trawling back through 2 years of someone's post history, still if its what you want to do with your Wednesday nights...'" As I said, it took about a minute, probably as long as it took you to amass all those AP quotes.
The trick is not to believe everything you hear/read, particularly from football club chairmen.
With the best will in the world, success is never guaranteed, but some on here seem to think that because AP said it, it will happen. And when it doesn't (which is more likely than not), they just love to complain.
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| Quote ="Dave K."So I'll read between the lines, Pearson basically says that Gentles recruitment was poor, can anyone argue with that?'"
His recruitment WAS poor, but as the HDM article that kicked this thread off states only 7 of the Gentle team that got hammered in the playoffs remain, and I don't see anyone suggesting we get rid of Shaul, Watts, Houghton, Ellis, Green & Westerman. Only Yeaman attracts mixed reviews. So why is Radford still talking about Gentle's recruitment?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I've put my point across many times both highly critical and supportive. I don't feel the need to trot out the same boring crap on every thread day in and day out like I read on here from the likes of yourself, bumpy and knowledge-free standee. You're as boring as our early season attack structure and tactics. The best thing about winning isn't the 2 points gained it's the fact that you lot go quiet for a week. Hope that means enough for you.'"
Looks like you will be tearing your hair out then over the next 6 weeks ( if you have any) responding to all the criticism as its very likely we will not pick up a win.
If that happens it makes Radfords second year tenure with his own squad really poor.
Who is Knowledge free standee?
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| Quote ="UllFC"His recruitment WAS poor, but as the HDM article that kicked this thread off states only 7 of the Gentle team that got hammered in the playoffs remain, and I don't see anyone suggesting we get rid of Shaul, Watts, Houghton, Ellis, Green & Westerman. Only Yeaman attracts mixed reviews. So why is Radford still talking about Gentle's recruitment?'" .... because AP recently said that he wished he could have given LR the same financial backing that he had wasted on Gentle and Macrae.
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| Looking back to last October we were told by AP that in 2015
"I genuinely feel we have a real chance of doing something next year and respecting the tradition of the club by winning matches in style."
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"If we don't do well, fans won't be hearing me talking the team up again."
I fear that he is simply going to use his coach and players as proxy's to do all the talking up instead. This interview is simply the first in a long series of soundbites about next year being "our year" "turning the corner" etc etc.
Why don't they STFU for once and let their performance on the field do the talking?
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| Quote ="ccs".... because AP recently said that he wished he could have given LR the same financial backing that he had wasted on Gentle and Macrae.'"
How hasnt he, and gentle did better with it than radford as, as far as performance and league posistions go. Do you want radford in charge of what is looking a decent squad next seanson, yes or no?
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"How hasnt he, and gentle did better with it than radford as, as far as performance and league posistions go. Do you want radford in charge of what is looking a decent squad next seanson, yes or no?'"
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| I'm not sure that declining to discuss the future prospects of the team until we've kicked off in 6 months time is advisable.
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| Quote ="Dave K."So I'll read between the lines, Pearson basically says that Gentles recruitment was poor, can anyone argue with that?'"
I'd say a fair assessment would be mixed. Some poor players, but equally some of the best players in our current squad are still his signings. Disregarding next season's recruitment because we don't yet know how it will pan out, I'd also say that recruitment since has been equally mixed so far.
Looking at this year:
Paea, Watts, Ellis, Thompson.
Sa, Talanoa, Pryce, Sneyd, Minichiello, Paleaaesina, Michaels, Naughton, Rankin.
Compares quite similarly IMO, some real quality in both lists, a canny signing or 2, and some averageness to bobbins (especially when adding in some already moved on). Probably our 5 best players in there this year IMO, shaded by Gentle's recruitment despite all the criticism it gets.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'm not sure that declining to discuss the future prospects of the team until we've kicked off in 6 months time is advisable.'"
It's just a shame that it's not a competition decided by who does the best "talking up" off the pitch.
If it was we'd win the hubcap, GF and CC every season.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I'd say a fair assessment would be mixed. Some poor players, but equally some of the best players in our current squad are still his signings. Disregarding next season's recruitment because we don't yet know how it will pan out, I'd also say that recruitment since has been equally mixed so far.
Looking at this year:
Paea, Watts, Ellis, Thompson.
Sa, Talanoa, Pryce, Sneyd, Minichiello, Paleaaesina, Michaels, Naughton, Rankin.
Compares quite similarly IMO, some real quality in both lists, a canny signing or 2, and some averageness to bobbins (especially when adding in some already moved on). Probably our 5 best players in there this year IMO, shaded by Gentle's recruitment despite all the criticism it gets.'"
The problem was his poor signings like Arundel, crookes Milller, etc were some of highest earners, he also paid over the odds for decent players like McDonnell and Pitts. I really think we would have gone backwards with Gentle as him and McRae didn't recruit the right players in the right areas and relied on David Howes for their recruitment.
Despite two decent seasons under Gentle their long term plan was poor and they had to go, the next person who took over would always have a tough job, I still don't think Radford is the man to take us forwards, but let's hope he proves us wrong.
Moaning about the same thing on different threads every single day is pointless and boring.
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| Articles like this and threads like this make me vomit, and the reason i cba to post anymore
I'm sure Barista has had a good long ranting post trying to belittle someone, if she can pull herself away from counting Rovers tickets and bemoning the lack of a centre, yet she still hasnt posted on the thread of us actually signing a centre.
Back to this thread, you all read this ? Radders now says 8th isnt good enough? feck me we've been for years, many are settling for the rubbish peddled, then disect an article about it.
How can anyone take any guff from the club seriously anymore.
Lets face it, bottom of the league, facing 6 meaningless games, people giving up free tickets to go. Udders and Cats will see sub 7k gates. Yet AP will threaten us all again.
Its just a sad sad state of affairs. The fact that 8th isnt good enough, but it's all we'll ever get with clowns at the top
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Articles like this and threads like this make me vomit, and the reason i cba to post anymore
I'm sure Barista has had a good long ranting post trying to belittle someone, if she can pull herself away from counting Rovers tickets and bemoning the lack of a centre, yet she still hasnt posted on the thread of us actually signing a centre.
Back to this thread, you all read this poop? Radders now says 8th isnt good enough? feck me we've been poop for years, many are settling for the rubbish peddled, then disect an article about it.
How can anyone take any guff from the club seriously anymore.
Lets face it, bottom of the league, facing 6 meaningless games, people giving up free tickets to go. Udders and Cats will see sub 7k gates. Yet AP will threaten us all again.
Its just a sad sad state of affairs. The fact that 8th isnt good enough, but it's all we'll ever get with clowns at the top'"
I can't be bothered to post anymore but..,,
The amount of posters who have given up of the club the last two years, but still continually post when things go wrong, you are either in or out, you can't have it both ways.
Anyway there could be some positive news tomorrow so I'd expect it to be quiet on here tomorrow.
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