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| Quote ="Diogenes"Of course not.
However if a decision has been made (as some who claim to be ITK suggest) why keep it secret?
If the club is waiting until the end of the season that's fair enough but there's no need to delay beyond then. The playing roster for next year [imay[/i influence [isome[/i people's decision as to whether or not to buy a pass.'"
But if that influence will only effect some individuals negatively then why announce anything. Can't really believe that anyone apart from his friends and family would not get a pass based on a player who hasn't hardly played.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"From what I recall, the Donny fans weren't too enamoured of Crooks either in his spells there.
If he has the big fish mentality, he'll always be the Richie Barnett Jr or Kevin Penny of this sport.
It strikes me that he's been getting bad advice from his father and not taking the advice of his employers.
Get rid.'"
He always put in good showings for the Dons, think he scored in every game he played in (whether legally selected or otherwise).
Miller got mixed reviews from Donny fans after a stinking first game, but played very well after that
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| Quote ="barham red"Quote ="Diogenes"Of course not.
However if a decision has been made (as some who claim to be ITK suggest) why keep it secret?
If the club is waiting until the end of the season that's fair enough but there's no need to delay beyond then. The playing roster for next year [imay[/i influence [isome[/i people's decision as to whether or not to buy a pass.'"
But if that influence will only effect some individuals negatively then why announce anything. Can't really believe that anyone apart from his friends and family would not get a pass based on a player who hasn't hardly played.'"
I didn't mean Crooks specifically but comings and goings generally hence my reference to "the playing roster for next year".
For example its been widely reported that Pitts is going to Bradford but nothing official has been announced and all we got from Radford yesterday was "no comment".
I hope that once the season is over there will be more transparency on the part of the club.
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| From the Hull FC website in relation to the Steve Michaels signing:
[iMichaels will arrive at the club as a centre, but can also operate on the wing if required, meaning competition in the backs for 2015 looks fierce with the likes of Kirk Yeaman, Setaimata Sa, Fetuli Talanoa and Tom Lineham all competing for spots.[/i
No mention of Crooks, Arundel or Lancaster. Draw your own conclusions.
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| Ben Crooks will be playing for Parramatta next year.
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| Quote ="loosemann"Ben Crooks will be playing for Parramatta next year.'"
I bet he doesn't, won't make a first grade appearance. He'll be lucky to get a game for the Wentworthville Magpies.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"From the Hull FC website in relation to the Steve Michaels signing:
[iMichaels will arrive at the club as a centre, but can also operate on the wing if required, meaning competition in the backs for 2015 looks fierce with the likes of Kirk Yeaman, Setaimata Sa, Fetuli Talanoa and Tom Lineham all competing for spots.[/i
No mention of Crooks, Arundel or Lancaster. Draw your own conclusions.'"
Wouldn't draw anything from Arundel or Lancaster not being mentioned, tbh. One's a junior and the others been on loan elsewhere most of this year.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"From the Hull FC website in relation to the Steve Michaels signing:
[iMichaels will arrive at the club as a centre, but can also operate on the wing if required, meaning competition in the backs for 2015 looks fierce with the likes of Kirk Yeaman, Setaimata Sa, Fetuli Talanoa and Tom Lineham all competing for spots.[/i
No mention of Crooks, Arundel or Lancaster. Draw your own conclusions.'"
Massive competition with 5 players competing for 4 places
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| Yeamans cemented in his spot so that's 4 players for 3 places
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Massive competition with 5 players competing for 4 places'" It does say "with the likes of", which suggests others as well.
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| Quote ="Jemmo"He always put in good showings for the Dons, think he scored in every game he played in (whether legally selected or otherwise).
Miller got mixed reviews from Donny fans after a stinking first game, but played very well after that'"
But without been disrespectful, it is a massive difference from SL to championship.
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| Regarding Arundle.. Can we afford to pay him off?? Doesn't his contract increase each year??
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| Quote ="heard1989"Regarding Arundle.. Can we afford to pay him off?? Doesn't his contract increase each year??'"
He's on over 100k next season. No club would go near him for that money.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"He's on over 100k next season. No club would go near him for that money.'"
Wow. If that's serious wow.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"He's on over 100k next season. No club would go near him for that money.'"
Appalling business if true. However if we are stuck with him why not play him (if injuries require it) rather than putting a second row forward at centre?
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| Quote ="Diogenes"Appalling business if true. However if we are stuck with him why not play him (if injuries require it) rather than putting a second row forward at centre?'"
Bombers masterstrokes eh, because is he really good enough to move us forward? Can you think of a game he has played for us when you have thought wow? He can make a difference? I've seen him play well for about 10 minutes against kr when he ripped down the wing & set Shaul up. He is average & doesn't even fit in the plans for 2015.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Bombers masterstrokes eh, because is he really good enough to move us forward? Can you think of a game he has played for us when you have thought wow? He can make a difference? I've seen him play well for about 10 minutes against kr when he ripped down the wing & set Shaul up. He is average & doesn't even fit in the plans for 2015.'"
Think it was Whiting who assisted the Shaul try. Arundel scored one himself when DJ offloaded straight from the kick off and Arundel burst through 2 defenders to run 60m.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"Think it was Whiting who assisted the Shaul try. Arundel scored one himself when DJ offloaded straight from the kick off and Arundel burst through 2 defenders to run 60m.'"
Think you are right, but it's the only spell in any game which stood out for me.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Bombers masterstrokes eh, because is he really good enough to move us forward? Can you think of a game he has played for us when you have thought wow? He can make a difference? I've seen him play well for about 10 minutes against kr when he ripped down the wing & set Shaul up. He is average & doesn't even fit in the plans for 2015.'"
Let's hope we don't sign any more "average" players then.
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| I'd imagine he (Arundel) won't be considered and will probably be loaned out again, meaning he won't be on our salary cap. AP just needs to negotiate with any potential club to pay as much of his alleged 6-figure salary to minimise his own loss.
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| Quote ="*1865*"I'd imagine he (Arundel) won't be considered and will probably be loaned out again, meaning he won't be on our salary cap. AP just needs to negotiate with any potential club to pay as much of his alleged 6-figure salary to minimise his own loss.'"
As there will be two fewer Super League teams next season it may not be as easy to loan out players. Of course they can be loaned to Championship clubs but those clubs won't be able to contribute as much towards their wages as an SL team would.
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| Quote ="*1865*"I'd imagine he (Arundel) won't be considered and will probably be loaned out again, meaning he won't be on our salary cap. AP just needs to negotiate with any potential club to pay as much of his alleged 6-figure salary to minimise his own loss.'"
He is on the cap for the next 2 seasons, who will take him? & he can just sit in the stands & count his money.
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| Where's the evidence that Arundal is on 100K?? All this b0llocks about Bombers master stroke and there's not a shred of evidence who is earning what..just some poster who is making up more nonsense to back the two idiots in charge..
There's an awful lot of unfoundedrubbish that Easthullfc fan comes out with..not a single bit of it has any actual facts to support them..but some people seem to beleive every word..it'd be laughable if it wasn't so sad and pathetic.
I've no idea if Lancaster or Crooks will be playing next year but going by how Lancaster was on fire and as has been shown replaced by an inferior Lineham who the feck knows what's going on with the club.
The wording is extremely telling if you ask me and we wouldn't be bringing in Micheal's if at least one of them weren't leaving..
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| Most of the things I've posted have come to light, believe what you want, i know his & Pitts wages, & it's 10% of our entire cap, i wouldn't post facts if they weren't true! I am sure there's a few more on here that know a few ins & outs about our club who could back these facts up.
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| I posted on here before the season started that arundel, pitts, crookes and miller were on stupid wages. I seem to remember no one believed me at the time
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