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| to be fair, he could be calling him a fanny, using the female ladies parts in such a fashion would surely be punishable with a season ban
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| Quote ="RFL"High tackle in the 32nd minute (Lancaster)
Decision: No charge
Tackle is high in a grabbing motion. Send off Sufficient. '"
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| To be honest I dont have a problem with him getting off in the sense that I have wanted the Ref's to take action during a game for ages instead of copping out and using the "on report"
This doesnt take away consistancy of course.
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| I noticed what both of them said during the game and said they should both have walked there and then. If he lets them talk to him like that during a game without taking action then he is creating problems for himself and other refs.
Not the same level I know but when I used to referee football I would say to both teams that any foul and abusive language in my direction would be an instant red card. It only took a couple of weeks of sendings off before they got the message and it virtually never happened again. If He heard those comments and is citing them after the match then he didn't do his job properly in the first place.
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"He should get a ban for swearing at the ref, nothing more imo, I don't thik this makes him homophobic, Ive been call much worst, but because im white and straight, it doesn't matter.'"
Of course it makes him homophobic! What planet do you live on? If you call an Asian a "F****g P**i" that makes you a racist. It's also against the law, not just rules of the game.
I'm sure you've been called much worse, but you're not a referee, or a professional sportsman or a role model on live television and it's NOT banter. He's getting paid for playing that game. If you called your boss a F***** then you'd be sacked, suspended or reprimanded.
If refs lose the respect, the game is gone. Simple as.
I'm also not sure why you needed to mention that you're "white and straight". Disturbing really.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Of course it makes him homophobic! What planet do you live on? If you call an Asian a "F****g P**i" that makes you a racist. It's also against the law, not just rules of the game.
I'm sure you've been called much worse, but you're not a referee, or a professional sportsman or a role model on live television and it's NOT banter. He's getting paid for playing that game. If you called your boss a F***** then you'd be sacked, suspended or reprimanded.
If refs lose the respect, the game is gone. Simple as.
I'm also not sure why you needed to mention that you're "white and straight". Disturbing really.'"
And I agree, we dot want the refs to lose respect, thats why i said he should get a ban for swearing at him.
He shouldnt of said it, it was out of order, but to say hes homophobic because of it, is ridiculous. He probably just needs educating. I didnt say it was BANTER either but hes a young kid, frustrated in a high contact sport and blurted out the first insult that came to his head. Is the ref in question actually gay? Whats Disturbing about been white and straight! you obviously didnt get my point
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| Two comments...
1. Hardaker's outburst doesn't seem to be aimed at the ref. Look where his eyes are focussed compared to where the ref is walking.
2. Regardless of who it was aimed at it's completely unacceptable.
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| I see nothing has been put on the RFL disciplinary regarding squeaky clean Peacock's outburst calling the ref a "Fecking Bent C@@@"
The whole system as has been repeated umnpteen times is not fit for purpose
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| Quote ="Chris28"Peacock may not be completely in the clear either...'"
Indeed not. You don't need to be an expert lip-reader to understand this (children please look away now)
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It doesn't seem to be directed at anyone, more him just "thinking" out loud.
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| If he'd called a coloured ref/player the N word he would have rightly been hung drawn and quartered. This is no different IMO. If you did it in the street to someone you would be arrested for it
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If he'd called a coloured ref/player the N word he would have rightly been hung drawn and quartered. This is no different IMO. If you did it in the street to someone you would be arrested for it'"
If the ref in question is infact gay then I see your point, if not then I don't think it's any worst then calling someone a w****r, p*ick etc
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"If the ref in question is infact gay then I see your point, if not then I don't think it's any worst then calling someone a w****r, p*ick etc'"
I believe he is
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| Ooops, could be in bother then, out of interest do you think 10000 fans calling someone fat , someone who is on the chunky side, do you think that's as bad
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Ooops, could be in bother then, out of interest do you think 10000 fans calling someone fat nice bloke, someone who is on the chunky side, do you think that's as bad'"
I have read a lot on this particular subject over the last few days but you are not really with us are you. You just don't get it do you. You have no concept about whether insults even if its calling someone a fatty, a ginger t..t, a black b, a n....r, or a cheating faggot are any different. Why name call anybody the guy in question is so Thick he is not worth defending so don't try and do it. By the way if you have kids I hope some how you know how to tell the difference between right and wrong and if you are ugly there will always be someone to love you.
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| Weyman mustbhave said something pretty bad then to get a red against Cas. Either that or they're just making an example of a 'smaller' team.
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Ooops, could be in bother then, out of interest do you think 10000 fans calling someone fat nice bloke, someone who is on the chunky side, do you think that's as bad'"
No, fatness is a lifestyle choice
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Weyman mustbhave said something pretty bad then to get a red against Cas. Either that or they're just making an example of a 'smaller' team.'"
It's been at least a fortnight since anyone from rovers was banned so it was long overdue
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| Quote ="Basher"I have read a lot on this particular subject over the last few days but you are not really with us are you. You just don't get it do you. You have no concept about whether insults even if its calling someone a fatty, a ginger t..t, a black b, a n....r, or a cheating faggot are any different. Why name call anybody the guy in question is so Thick he is not worth defending so don't try and do it. By the way if you have kids I hope some how you know how to tell the difference between right and wrong and if you are ugly there will always be someone to love you.'"
My guess is Tinkerman is in his sixties and from a time when it was acceptable, if morally repulsive.
If not, then spectacularly obtuse.
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"He should get a ban for swearing at the ref, nothing more imo, I don't thik this makes him homophobic, Ive been call much worst, but because im white and straight, it doesn't matter.'"
using homophobic slurs at a homosexual makes you homophobic, no two ways about it.
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| Quote ="the cal train"using homophobic slurs at a homosexual makes you homophobic, no two ways about it.'"
Nail on head.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"My guess is Tinkerman is in his sixties and from a time when it was acceptable, if morally repulsive.
If not, then spectacularly obtuse.'"
Guess again, Im not in my sixties, what I am is realistic, Ive not once suggested any of the things you mention are acceptable. My kids live in era of technologhy, mobile phones, internet, social media, an era where children commit suicide from insults in the form of texts etc, my kids know right from wrong don't worry about that, but they also wont go crying in the corner from been called a name.
What I do find offensive is YOU, Implying poor parenting, Implying I think racism and homophobia acceptable!
My sister is a lesbian, the majority of my children's friends are black, Muslim.
Like I said in my original post, these things get blow out of proportion, I stand by that, and also that I don't think Hardaker is homophobic, like you said, just thick! But why name call at all (your words)
Your more offensive, then someone calling me name.
I guess you'll get away with that though, because your all very PC!
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| What others call political correctness, I call manners.
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| If you don't like foul and abusive language, don't read the RFL verdict on [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5408Weyman's[/url sending off!!
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| Quote ="ccs"If you don't like foul and abusive language, don't read the RFL verdict on [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?5408Weyman's[/url sending off!!
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