We are in serious shiit for Friday now

you're telling me, we need big forwards to match up to salford - can't even select a purposeful 17 if carvs isn't fit. mind you if sunday is anything to go on we'll only use 16

I cant wait for Friday, both teams are unpredictable at the moment so should be one hell of a game. I think there will be a few of us there (salford) but im not to sure about the cup. I think for us Hock and Griffin are a big miss. I do also think the RFL make up a number of bans as they go along. I cant see how westwood got a one match ban for punching a player in the face in a grand final yet a castleford player Tansey gets 3 match ban for pushing a ref. I know you shouldnt touch an offical but never a 3 game ban..See you lot on friday

I bloody love my rugby league, or at least I did. In my opinion, the best sport in the world has been completely effed up by those morons in the RFL. Not only are they corrupt, but absolutely clueless with how to run the game. Their referees are incompetent that (as I heard screamed by a fan behind me on Sunday) "have left their spines in Red Hall". Would love for there to be some form of revolution and turn back the damage the current crop of n*bheads have done. I and countless others want Rugby to be back how it should be. Bring back the biff!

Not seen Ellis's 'charge' and if it was to the head then fair enough but after watching the wire game on Thursday and seeing Westwoods late shoulder charge on the kicker towards the end of the game gone totally unmentioned (even the sky numpty's commented on it) then you do have to wonder about the consistency of the reviews.
We've got Poore up again and he was part of a tackle that went over the vertical but by the sounds of it so where 3 widnes players, now Poore will get 3 matches they get a caution, How does that work??

Constant ill discipline.

Do people actually remember these incidents that get charged or do you all just moan, saying "O it's Hull, would get away if it was Leeds", the panel have reviewed footage and have a better view of the tackle than anybody else, happened right infront of me, after Brown passed the ball Ellis should charged him from behind when he didn't have the ball, deserves the ban he gets. Take off the tinted specs

He makes a great point.

Nobody is moaning about Ellis potentially getting a ban, it is the inconstancy, last with Paea when compared to Flower and this week Ellis compared to Westwood.

At least with tinted specs it's possible to see through the other side. From your post I can only assume you're blindfolded if you can't see what is actually being debated in regards to the judiciary.

"EGP"

Gets two match ban

So misses both Salford games

Don't have a problem with the poore charge, he is a liability at times but if dropping someone on their head is a grade C then how can someone just get a caution for the same offence. I thought the EPG was there for a '1st offence' but guess not.
I'll go back to Westwood not even being mentioned and you can hardly state good behaviour on his part.

Nightmare, must have been a fair call if he has done this.

Need Carvell back and Paea will be back for the cup game.

The games against Cas and Widnes resulted in seventeen incidents being reported to the disciplinary committee. (ok 3 were for the same gentle tackle on Whiting.)

Something is going drastically wrong somewhere.

As I said after the Paea charge I watched for any similar tackles over the weekend and not only were there loads of similar tackles there were several far worse ones and yet no charges made at all. The disciplinary process is an absolute joke. When you see the same or worse offences going unpunished you really have to call into question the integrity of the people making these decisions. At best they are incompetent fools and at worst they are bent.

EGP - 2 matches!!!

RFL strictly come dancing committee are massively inconsistent - got to believe it is incompetence rather than conspiracy, but we are seen as rebels now by RFL after voting against hetheringtons at restructure , and adams frank and honest comments about shambles at RFL over last year or so

but if you consider we were highest penalised side in SL for first 4 games perhaps we should consider the RFL citing committee were tasked to watch closely our last 2 games and found 17 instances worth following up - maybe our poor discipline early on cost us not just losses but also a target for RFL.

maybe we are a bit our own worst enemy when taking on the governing body

no paea and ellis as suspended makes radders job a little bit harder as these two are 100% effort and professional on and off field.

my honest belief is that we may have to suffer another season or 2 of mediocrity before the investment in youth brings us the halfback we have needed for 6 years to be a top 4 side. I know adam said mediocrity would not be a measure of success while he is at club but he maybe underestimated the mess and underinvestment he inherited and it took wigan year to turn around their structure to now relying on local talent.

I personally think this plan to rely on building a team based on local talent is a good one. I just hope the club and the fans have the stomach and patience to let it come to fruition. Unfortunately I can see performances like Sunday and the prospect of relegation seeing fans voting with their feet rather than sticking by the club through more mediocrity. Which would probably result in another change of tactics by AP.

I give in.

It's going to end up being RU.

Sadly, I'm rapidly drifting towards this view point. They've always been a bit questionable, but just looking at the incidents on Whiting (& Crooks) getting warnings and other players getting banned, or ignored totaly its becoming increasingly hard to see any other view. Its not like they have a split second and one view from a possibly questionable angle to make a decision, which can could possibly use as an excuse for a ref missing it.

Can we just break off and form our own league so we aren't forced to watch the drivel that the RFL is slowly but surely turning this game in to anymore. It worked in 1895? :/

Or go all French Revolution on them and storm the Bastille (Red Hall).

It's beyond a joke.

I have long held that view and its another reason why this sport is a joke amongst serious sports like RU and Football.

The whole sport sport does not speak with one voice for a start unlike every other sport RL is slipping further and further behind RU. It now commands an increase on tv deals and is growing we get the same deal until 2020+. The sport will struggle on, but its in decline the amateur game is shrinking as is the pro game.

Its a joke and I prefer RL to Union as a sport to watch, but things like this cancel it out.

No Ellis no Paea probably no Carvell can only see a Salford victory.

how do we the fans of both hull clubs make the rfl take notice of our gripe? non attendance at away games for starters leeds widness and wakefield bet gary kath n jim will not like that. i am sure a few other clubs would miss the income fc and kr bring .still the 2 biggest away following