I think the fact that it was only Widnes shows why our fans & coach are so angry.

Be honest with you I wasn't there. But I've seen time and time again players turn up looking like they've not prepared for us at all thinking we'll be a pushover. I've seen teams rest players against us, and they don't realise we're not an easy 2 points. Don't know whether that was the case today, I was reacting to this embarrassing original post and some of the obnoxious replies.

Thought they must have done.

We didn't rest anyone. All players missing were either injured or suspended.

We've put this kind of performance in against all sorts of sides on a semi-regular basis for the last several years. It was one of the things specifically targeted by Radford when he came in, which is why he's so angry tonight. It had nothing to do with it being Widnes.

Fair enough. We were just better on the day then.

You played the conditions better than us and defended well. In overall play over 80 minutes I thought we shaded it, but were so diabolical in execution, bombing several clear-cut chances, that we got exactly what we deserved from the game. You guys did what you needed to, which wasn't much. A good 2 points for you, an attacking shambles for us.

Agree with that, the only time they looked like scoring was when rankin lost the bal

Pretty decent defensively though conceeding only 7 pts.

It helps when the opposition throw the ball into touch with the tryline begging. Multiple times.

radford's going to get at least a full season regardless of what we think of him, so we might as well back the team. i don't think he should have got the job but as standee said, superleague can't attract top class coaches any more as the standards are poor at the moment. superleague is nowhere near where it was 6 or 7 seasons ago

According to the man himself today he'll walk if he can't get the players to do what he wants them to. So if we do get a full season of him it will be because we've turned it around. Which will be a Good Thing.

Didn't Richard Agar say something similar at the start of his tenure? Four years later...

Forgive me ............

We played today with ONE recognised prop and a string of other injuries/suspensions against a near full strength Widnes team that played tight percentage rugby on a wet afternoon. Their tactics where spot on for the conditions ours where not and even then it took a mistake in the early part of the match to be the difference.

Our half backs struggled today because the forwards did not provide any platform they could work off or around. Unless we get some back for Salford the same or worse will happen. The weather played a big factor as well, remember Wembley anyone ? reminded me badly of that day. Too many passes went out wide , behind or where dropped passing out long balls on days like today when the tactic is keep it tight.

I think there was a lot of panic out there and too many players out of position, it could be a long season .................. again

You think Radford is like Agar?

Hull were dire today and still bombed 6 clear cut scoring opportunities. widnes created nothing and scored their only try from an error by our full back. I doubt you'll win many away games this season unless you improve significantly.

hull still lack that type of player ,who can dictate play in differing conditions.

We've lost one so far. No bitterness in your post!

No, none at all, just my observations from attending the game. We were rubbish and still created enough clear cut chances to beat you by 30 points

I'm sure the 7 pages before this is pretty much the same

What a utter joke and disgrace,

No team should ever be nilled at home. It wouldnt shock me if we have the most home nillings in SL

Nilled at home should be enough to cough a weeks wages for these super stars (and coaches)

It's just a game of rugby - don't go if it upsets you so much.

Widnes where nowhere near their best and still won. We will win a few away games and get over it and move on. The game is about taking your chances and that is my observations.

You dont see the top teams nilled at home.

We should be aiming for much more than this FFS

But you didn't. You didn't score a single point.

You have answered your own question. Hull are not a top team.

Taking a positive from game, defence must have been good, the least amount of points you have conceded all season.