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| Quote ="Chris28"And leave us to pay for the KC ourselves. Good idea.'"
How do you work that out? Are you saying our rent will double because a tenant moved out?
HCC are fed up to the teeth of the Mental Egyptian and his threats, they're hardly likely to upset the only tenant left at their stadium. With any luck, if the fruitcake walks away, we can have concerts at the stadium instead of poxy squash and polo.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Apparently they're not now walking away in 24 hours. Who'd have thought it?'"
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| The FA wont allow the name change, if they do others will follow.
Can you imagine it Everton Toffees, Chelsea Russians etc.
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| Quote ="fcgrandad"The FA wont allow the name change, if they do others will follow.
Can you imagine it Everton Toffees, Chelsea Russians etc.'"
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| Quote Allam was quoted by the Guardian as saying last night: "We will announce a ballot this week and we will challenge the decision.
If the FA does not allow our plan, we will walk away, put it on the market to sell the club.
We would not put it into liquidation; there is a lot of money at stake. I will get my money when I sell."'"
Bit more in the Guardian article...
Quote The FA's subcommittee is understood to have found that the Allams had not justified the name change on commercial grounds or to have consulted adequately with supporters.
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Allam told the Guardian he now intends to ballot City's 17,900 season-ticket holders – he said it would have made no difference to have done so before the FA committee considered the issue.'"
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"How do you work that out? Are you saying our rent will double because a tenant moved out?
HCC are fed up to the teeth of the Mental Egyptian and his threats, they're hardly likely to upset the only tenant left at their stadium. With any luck, if the fruitcake walks away, we can have concerts at the stadium instead of poxy squash and polo.'"
If they are that fed up of him why do they persist in allowing him to run the stadium?
On concerts are they the type that nearly bankrupt AP?
I personally can't wait to see the back of him as he has caused nothing but disruption since he came on the scene. He has done absolutely nothing for the city of Hull. A city he claims to love. I wish HCAFC well without him. If that means that they drop out of the PL or even the championship I am sure it will be for the good of the club and allow some stability.
All he has done is saddle the club with debt as opposed to being the Knight in Shinning armour that he claims he is. He will get his fortune back with interest and leave City in the mire again, unless there is someone willing to throw good money at it without any hope of a return.
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| Quote ="easthullairliebird"reading between the lines I think the allams are wanting a way out and in todays climate that can't be good for city, the problem lies in the stadium capacity this been the reason he wanted to buy it. I can see city playing Shorpe and co in a couple of seasons with 4000 supporters watching them, Hull is a rugby city always has and always will be. I know city fans will be slagging me off for this but I watched city vs Newcastle at weekend and wasn't bothered who won, just wanted to watch a prem team at the kc. That doesn't make me a glory supporter just curious and will continue to renew my anfield season pass, its sad when there are more Liverpool and man utd fans in this city than actual city fans. At least allam wont be trying to screw fc out of more money in a couple of years.'"
Its not sad its embarrassing and people like you are the problem. You have a local football team, if your interested in football then you support them. There's no reason to be a Liverpool fan if your from Hull other than glory hunting, you might as well ditch FC and support the Rhinos instead.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"How do you work that out? Are you saying our rent will double because a tenant moved out?
HCC are fed up to the teeth of the Mental Egyptian and his threats, they're hardly likely to upset the only tenant left at their stadium. With any luck, if the fruitcake walks away, we can have concerts at the stadium instead of poxy squash and polo.'"
The last few concerts made a loss, that's why there hasn't been any more.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"How do you work that out? Are you saying our rent will double because a tenant moved out?'"
Why wouldn't it? Two companies pay rent for use of the stadium. One ceases to exist in your scenario. You really think the council and whoever is in charge of the SMC would allow us to keep paying the same rent? The stadium would end up looking like Boothferry Park did.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Why wouldn't it? Two companies pay rent for use of the stadium. One ceases to exist in your scenario. You really think the council and whoever is in charge of the SMC would allow us to keep paying the same rent? The stadium would end up looking like Boothferry Park did.'" I can't really see that happening - Allam would have tried it already if our tenancy agreement wasn't rock solid.
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| Quote ="Airlie Street"The last few concerts made a loss, that's why there hasn't been any more.'"
Down to appalling marketing. The best time for outdoor arena concerts is right in the middle of the RL season. So they would have to be timed just before a pitch refurb.. Not to mention a decent line-up,well hyped and publicised.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Why wouldn't it? Two companies pay rent for use of the stadium. One ceases to exist in your scenario. You really think the council and whoever is in charge of the SMC would allow us to keep paying the same rent? The stadium would end up looking like Boothferry Park did.'"
Tbf, I would assume your tenancy agreement is watertight. It might be a bit politically awkward if the council couldn't find somebody to take on stadium management, if the losses the Allams report are a fair reflection of the situation. End of the day, your agreement will be underwritten by the council, I imagine.
If the Allams do sell City, it'll be interesting to see if the new owners want the SMC too.
If one tenant was lost (unlikely, of course) then SMC costs would fall significantly too - there'd be less events to steward and what have you.
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| Quote ="Airlie Street"Its not sad its embarrassing and people like you are the problem. You have a local football team, if your interested in football then you support them. There's no reason to be a Liverpool fan if your from Hull other than glory hunting, you might as well ditch FC and support the Rhinos instead.'"
Steady on!
As an aside I started following F.C. for the glory.
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| I wish people like Simon Clark would stop calling him Dr Allam.I hope any features about Johnny Whiteley on Look North in the future will address him as Dr Whiteley in the interests of fairness
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| Quote ="Chris28"Why wouldn't it? Two companies pay rent for use of the stadium. One ceases to exist in your scenario. You really think the council and whoever is in charge of the SMC would allow us to keep paying the same rent? The stadium would end up looking like Boothferry Park did.'"
What we need to worry more about is the fact he may sell the football club, but keep the SMC to try and get one over the new owners, ourselves and the Council.
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| It seems Mr Allam is unhappy because the FA had the audacity to speak to others groups opposed to the idea...
Quote "The FA introduced a new policy to handle our application on the back of consultations with the City Till We Die group,
and we therefore feel that our application was already pre-judged," the club statement continued.'"
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Quote Hull City Council has agreed to spend £10,000 to become an associate partner for this year's British Open squash championship, which will be held at the KC Stadium in May'"
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"What we need to worry more about is the fact he may sell the football club, but keep the SMC to try and get one over the new owners, ourselves and the Council.'"
He can't. The agreement with the council provides that whoever owns Hull City also owns the SMC.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"The agreement with the council provides that whoever owns Hull City also owns the SMC.'" I've not heard that one before - strange if true.
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| As regards to the SMC, didnt Adam Pearson say that it never made a loss when he was in charge of it.
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| Quote ="Punos"As regards to the SMC, didnt Adam Pearson say that it never made a loss when he was in charge of it.'"
Allam wants it to make a loss, he uses it to avoid paying tax on his other businesses plus he scores cheap political points - a win-win for him.
Good to see Peter Levy and all the other speakers on Look North tonight referring to "Mr" Allam, with one sad exception - that pathetic brown-noser Simon Clark still using "Dr".
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| Quote ="Erik the not red"Allam wants it to make a loss, he uses it to avoid paying tax on his other businesses plus he scores cheap political points - a win-win for him.
Good to see Peter Levy and all the other speakers on Look North tonight referring to "Mr" Allam, with one sad exception - that pathetic brown-noser Simon Clark still using "Dr".'"
Just hope Clark remembers that Johnny Whiteley is as much as a Dr as allam is for future reference
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| Quote ="Punos"As regards to the SMC, didnt Adam Pearson say that it never made a loss when he was in charge of it.'"
thats true it made a profit every year under Pearson's stewardship. In Allam's defence (rare for me to stick up for him) a lot of the SMC's revenue used to be from corporate events and trade fairs etc which has really dropped off during the recession. But the other poster is most likely right when he suggests its a tax scam.
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| Quote ="UllFC"But the other poster is most likely right when he suggests its a tax scam.'"
The tax implications of Allam's ownership of the SMC and City have been covered in Private Eye - there has been no hint of any retraction or apology to the great philanthropist in subsequent editions.
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| will mr allam recoup his £75 million, after all there is no stadium with the team and even selling all the players would probably only fetch £30 million.
or was he serious when he said the £40 million was a gift to the people of hull
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| Who the hell would buy them if he put them on the market anyway? He's in it up to his eyeballs with little chance of getting his cash back
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