He'll be ok now his mate is head coach then.

Show us a game where he has proven he is good enough to be a starting scrum half for a team at the top end of SL. He has shown the odd glimpse of quality but he hasn't shown it consistently at all and has shown little or nothing in the way of organising skills or a half decent kicking game

Maybe a coach that rates him

Miller is garbage,the quicker we get him of the pay roll the better,the only problem with that is,that nobody will have him,was he related to Gentle??????

He is manifestly not "garbage" and if you think that you know nothing about RL. He is talented but young and inexperienced.

He came over last season and got straight off the plane and was thrown almost straight away into a side in a poor run of form and spent most of his time playing alongside an experienced colleague who turned it on when he felt like it and whose main concern appeared to be to avoid being tackled.

I had hoped that with the benefit of a full pre-season he would be a better player and I believe that if he and Rankin were given an extended run together they could form a very effective combination.

I've been on this forum for years,I don't post much,but I think over the years I'm a pretty good judge of who can play rugby to a decent standard and who can't.I'll still be here in a year or two,so come back to me and tell me were Miller is then,I'll back my judgment,that he will be nowhere.

He'll be back in oz playing semi pro. Too many on here listen to the hype and don't look at what's in front of their eyes

I don't think he's 'garbage' but if he was that good he'd still be in Oz I would have thought, they don't usually let great talent go that easily, certainly not the age he is.
I really hope he can make a fist of it here but I think Radders has already shown he doesn't want him here which is his perogative and obviously he's working with him closely. Or you would expect someone to be given it's the half backs where our constant issue has been since Horne/Cooke were together.

Did you not see the penalty he gave away from the scrum?

Wembley? Are you for real? He was the only one that didn't make an error.

We'll thank you for finding the time to log on and tell us that. By the way, I'll take the Australian head coaches opinion over yours, if it's all the same.

Catalan game, Cas he showed glimpses, Salford & Hudds at home.
Don't worry though, he'll get forced out because he was Gentle's blue eyed boy and you and the other Wayne Bennett's can think you're right.

Miller needs to find a bit of Rankin's cockiness/energy/confidence/attitude.

As long as Radford plays those in form and drops players after a couple of bad performances then the team and club will benefit overall. That goes for any players in any position. As a fan it's best not to invest too much in any single player in my experience.

Agreed - the players know where they stand too and the coach can't be accused of having favourites.

Do we really think Radders or any coach in SL will not play a squad member because he dont like them? or he picks a team on what he sees fit for the game?
would AP let this happen?

Actually yes I do, I think it clouds your judgement.

Miller will get his chance though because it will be a massive surprise if Rich Horne makes it through the season fit, I just hope Miller doesn't feel deflated not playing and can be up for it when he gets his chance.

We don't want another Seymour

Thirded. Some of the blinkers worn by the odd few on here towards their favourites can only lead to disappointment and frustration. Bit worrying, the extent of some of it. (Is there a masculine equivalent of the word 'sapphic'?) You'll always get these endless unresolved arguments if people cannot remain objective. Just hope Radford can.

I gave up having favourites in the Sharks days. I bought a shirt and had Glen Tomlinson's name put on the back of it thinking he would be the half back we so desperately needed (sound familiar?

). Went to Knowsley Road and watched him go down with no one anywhere near him - his leg had shattered and I don't think he played again for us. That was it for me no more names or favourites

Well you are wrong, it is nothing to do with personal vendetta & more on ability, Radders would play anyone who is good enough & i know this for sure, would he play a player he does not see capable of doing a job for his team? which would make his own job look like he is not doing right? he will get a chance possibly through injury to another pivot, or if he shows signs of the player he was hyped up to be.

I take solace in the fact you disagree with me which guarantees I'm right

I take solace in the fact you've broke out the smilies, guarantees you have no rebuttal.

You're right, I have no rebuttal for your nonsensical post. I admire your man love for miller and westerman, misplaced as it is

we have been crying out for a coach who picks players on form not reputation when radders picks horne over miller (on form) everyone shouts get rid of miller. the season before last everyone was saying horne was past it and should be moved out... talk about kneejerk reaction

Not everyone. At the end of last year I said I was looking forward to seeing Miller after a full pre season. When he gets his chance (which he will) it's up to him to take it and I hope he does. I would have no problem with Miller and Rankin or Miller and Horne provided they were creating and scoring tries. As it stands the coach has gone with Horne and Rankin so let's see how they go. They were both a bit mixed in what was the first game of the season but each scored a try and set up others so in general were doing exactly what they are paid for. The problem as you say is when people take a view and then try and defend it in the face of clear facts. Inevitably things will change during the season.