Australia -18.5 @11/8 from sky bet ... #givingmoneyaway

Fooking get in

Sinfield doesn't belong on the international stage, that is clear

The ex cons seem rattled

We should have the video ref system there using here . Clear and concise

agree 100%, let the punters hear the decisions

Surely it's time for Widdup

Westwood is a fookin liability. Domestically and internationally.

Still could win this but think Graham would have been the difference today . Graham and mcillorum have let the side down today

hock, mcillorum and graham could have been the difference today. Let their country down.

Were Briscoe and o'loughlin in on it too?

Where was Rangi Chase? game would have been winnable with Brough and Graham in there.

Lee Mossop will get ripped apart in the NRL.

Chase was invisible today and brough would have made a huge difference.Scrum half is a specialist position and sinfield and chase certainly aren't scrum halves.Three years preparing for a world cup and we turn up without one,whichever way you look at it its the coaches fault,if he wasn't coach our man of steel would have played for us and not scotland !!

Not a real bad performance for our 1st game. Broughy would have taken it to the line and maybe have taken them on as Thurston/Cronk do. Burrows should have played hes great to come on as a replacement and run at tired/lazy defenders always gets a penalty and gains you yards. If SM gets the pivots right we wont be far away. If he does or not is another story. imo

Agree with that, changing Sinfield to hooker to bring Widdop on is one of the most stupid things I've ever seen on the rl field.

Turgess, Mossop, Westwood, Chase and Albert were all poor.

i thought england players shared rooms surely whoever shared with hock said "c"mon time to go"

Thing is with England is that there all names. Yes there's a few talented players but others are there based solely on who they are and who they play for.

Mcilorum would defo be 1 of my subs. Although Roby was very good against Smith. Westwood was ok as was Ferres cut out the cheap penalties. Dont think the ref was the right choice.imo

the biggest let down was Robert Hicks on the touch line, pulling England up for everything

Yet in super league games the touch judges are anonymous !!

I know Ellis didn't have the best of seasons with us but I thought both 2nd were average yesterday. If Lineham and Crooks progress again next season then I can see them starting for England soon. The 10 Burgess I thought was outstanding yesterday. Pleased for Chris Hill as well. Thought he also played well.

George Burgess was a machine all game, never takes a backwards step, the kid's gonna go far.

George should of been off the bench. Need Graham back. Tom burgess only played a hand full of games last year yet comes in. Crabtree would of been more useful. Hill and George went off mid first half and we lost all momentum. Mossop is gash. He had zero impact in attack and less in defence, was slow motion at times and him and ablett are so far out of their depth at that level.
We could with the right team do damage but the sinefield at all costs will kill us. Roby off for all that time to accommodate him was ludicrous. If gonna pull that kind of stunt be better putting chase at hooker for all bit, at least has some zip n go about him. Better still burrow.
The playing of chase stuck out wide blows my mind too, S L s top carrier, try assister, tackle buster and off loader put out in a 2nd centre position. Yet sinefield gets the free role! ! DUMB. Also sir fookin Kevin there for his kicking missed more than he got,and place kicking Tompkins was better!
Thought Watkins had a great game, needs more ball. Did great with inglis. Leroy went well too to be fair. Charnley didn't go well for me. Lazy in the first place before got caught in touch for oz try, think Briscoe would of made a better attempt in defence on a couple of the tries as well
So could of won yesterday which would of presented easier route to final. Gonna struggle in a semi against new Zealand. To me stronger than the Australians